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In reply to the discussion: You know what cracks me up...and I mean all the way the fuck up? [View all]JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Boxes in the garage and stripper girlfriends? The same people that screamed for Manning's head now insisting they were totally always cool with her, as if people can't remember the anti-Manning posters and can't remember who they were? The people that probably scream Comrade Greensnow! and shake their fist every time a red car drives by? The people that defended Rick Warren to the point of using homophobic slurs themselves suddenly discovering they support LGBT people? (As long as said LGBT people are in Russia.) The people that call anyone that doesn't like the NSA "libertarians"? The people that are using some of the worst right wing memes like "Blame America First" and "unAmerican" to describe anyone opposed to anything the government or law enforcement does? The people that seamlessly switched from "Anyone that thinks the government spies on Americans is crazy. Tin foil hat!" to "We always knew we were being spied on. This is totally old news!" without so much as a pause for breath?
Which of that group of NSA defenders have a point, and what is it?
There are a handful of people that do make actual arguments about the legality/constitutionality of the program, and while I think they're wrong, they do make actual arguments, often quite good ones, that can be...well...argued. They're also in the minority.