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AverageJoe90

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55. I read this quite well, thank you.

Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:27 PM

Mar 2014

The problem was, he claimed the assassination of the Archduke was a "minor event". Here, I'll even quote him directly:

"Within less than one month of a minor incident in a minor region of the continent....."

So, I don't know where you got this idea about me supposedly having reading comprehension problems, but you really should rethink that.

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Ukraine is About Oil. So Was World War I [View all] Catherina Mar 2014 OP

It's about oil? Who knew? Scuba Mar 2014 #1

Major General Smedley Butler Dollface Mar 2014 #31

Viet Nam was about OIL coldbeer Mar 2014 #44

Also Rubber plantations. nt Javaman Mar 2014 #142

Very silly cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #2

I agree. aristocles Mar 2014 #3

I imagine there were lots of people back then who thought the same thing. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #4

Fall in line with the propaganda that it's about "democracy" Catherina Mar 2014 #9

Spreading freedom like we are at home......... BlueJac Mar 2014 #17

+1. I'm keeping an eye on that one too. That might help the Senate wake up a bit n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #25

I was told today on DU, believe it or not, that spying on the Senate 'is about transparency'! sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #138

Why don't you mention that Russia also fracks for gas? And why are you on this site if you don't okaawhatever Mar 2014 #21

Russia is fracking in the US? Since when? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #23

Support democracy? zeemike Mar 2014 #41

Many can't get over themselves. Igel Mar 2014 #5

The odd thing about your list is that most of it is true. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #7

I hope you didn't work too long on that nonsensical post n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #12

QED. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #19

Why are giving billions of dollars to Ukraine right now? Is just altruism or an investment, and if sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #24

We don't "give" anything. JEB Mar 2014 #97

Your right we take a lot. go west young man Mar 2014 #123

Thanks for the link. JEB Mar 2014 #124

Well that was subtle... Catherina Mar 2014 #10

not a good piece, but the claim itself- isn't silly cali Mar 2014 #42

Your refutation of things I have never said is noted. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #52

Your logic is flawless... TampaAnimusVortex Mar 2014 #141

Yup. Oil and gas. And big oil wants us foot the bill for their war. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #6

Thank you n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #11

Well done. Good graphics. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #66

Old news Token Republican Mar 2014 #8

What do you think it's about? n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #13

Naw, here's the news- We're going to frack away in the US, Ukraine and export American natural gas Catherina Mar 2014 #18

That's not fair ctsnowman Mar 2014 #26

Event was sponsored by Chevron, Exxon Mobil, Monsanto... Lovely eh? Catherina Mar 2014 #32

omg. listening to this Neo-Con rah rah speech is sickening 2banon Mar 2014 #105

Some interesting comments at the link. nt raccoon Mar 2014 #14

That's what I like about CD Catherina Mar 2014 #16

World War II was about oil, and ProSense Mar 2014 #15

You want us to spend our money defending big oil? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #68

"It's about oil" is the lunatic-left's equivalent of "It's about Benghazi" ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #20

Hi Conservative, nice to see you again. Why don't you tell us what it is about? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #22

Hi Sabrina. I'm rather amused you're stalking me. Enjoy your irrelevance. ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #27

You're beyond transparent. nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #28

Sure, we Dems have heard all that before, now that you got it out of your system ... sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #33

No, Sabrina, we DEMOCRATS have heard it all before... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #47

"Given your obvious hatred towards the President" sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #51

I'm supposed to "come up with research" on how you hate Obama... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #99

They didn't poll me. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #35

why don't you ask a Ukrainian? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #90

That's a great idea, when are the elections? We haven't heard from the Ukrainian people sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #104

So what exactly is the difference between a Conservative Democrat and a Republican Catherina Mar 2014 #29

So what do you call yourself? Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #40

Sorry, this thread is about oil, wars and Ukraine Catherina Mar 2014 #45

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #50

Results of The Jury. bvar22 Mar 2014 #56

Thanks to jurors 3-6 n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #60

I'm sorry, but no. Just no. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #30

Waste of time nails it. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #34

Some on the left are becoming like the right: history dunces. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #38

No kidding. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #39

Not that it matters considering the last elections in the whole country. go west young man Mar 2014 #125

I couldn't agree more! sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #43

Well how ever many ways there are, this forum will find them all Number23 Mar 2014 #65

You really, really need to work on your reading skills. Let me bold a passage for you Catherina Mar 2014 #46

I read this quite well, thank you. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #55

Actually... Javaman Mar 2014 #143

Thanks for your great comment here. I totally agree with you. Catherina Mar 2014 #146

I corrected it to reflect the authors opinion not yours. :) Javaman Mar 2014 #148

Actually, the assassination was not the cause dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #71

Thanks for this great addition about Europe's pre-WWI jockeying for oil domination Catherina Mar 2014 #73

Another good book is The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #75

That was one of my favorite books! Highly recommended Catherina Mar 2014 #78

"the first British regiment to be deployed in the First World War goes to Basara dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #79

I'm dusting off his book right now to reread it and googling to see what he has to say about Ukraine Catherina Mar 2014 #96

I have The Quest, have not yet read it. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #100

Just pick it up one afternoon, you won't be able to put it down Catherina Mar 2014 #110

No. Again, it *was* the assassination that caused the war(well, in our world anyway). AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #82

Ok..I'll bite...why was the death of Ferdinand so important? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #84

The Austrians were most upset, but they weren't the only ones. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #86

+1 nt Javaman Mar 2014 #144

News to me. malthaussen Mar 2014 #36

That's not entirely true. German influence on the Ottomon Empire was threatening British Oil... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #53

Oil was already of huge importance for WWI. Germany, then the UK, were converting navies to oil Catherina Mar 2014 #54

Unrec. More commondreams silliness. FSogol Mar 2014 #37

Common Dreams has some great writers. Just like any forum or website. madfloridian Mar 2014 #48

Perhaps, but the contemptible dreck that gets posted here makes a pretty ridiculous sample. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #64

What is it about then? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #49

Not to mention an ignorance of history. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #57

Oh? Robert Newman's History of Oil . Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #80

amazing qazplm Mar 2014 #58

Mr. Freeman couldn't be more wrong if he tried Savannahmann Mar 2014 #59

Very interesting but please see post 54 Catherina Mar 2014 #63

No! No! No! WWI was about "Making the world safe for democracy" and to "End all wars". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #61

The denial is shockingly strong on this one. On basics at that n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #70

It really wasn't about oil, to be truthful. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #85

Our WAR with Japan was...ultimately...about oil too. bvar22 Mar 2014 #62

What have they been teaching in history classes? Catherina Mar 2014 #69

That was an unusual High School History Class, you went to Catherina 2banon Mar 2014 #101

I admit Catherina Mar 2014 #111

And I grew up in the military... 2banon Mar 2014 #118

Ex marine posting against all this war for oil bullshit too. go west young man Mar 2014 #126

I'm what was referred to as "dependent" back in the day.. 2banon Mar 2014 #131

Ah cool... go west young man Mar 2014 #132

omg, when? 2banon Mar 2014 #134

Long time ago now. go west young man Mar 2014 #136

I'm a musician too! LOL! 2banon Mar 2014 #137

Dad was stationed in all three places, plus El Toro and Kaneohe 2banon Mar 2014 #135

Some truth to that. But even with WWII, oil wasn't a *primary* cause for war, even with Japan. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #87

cosmic-ironically, Washington had planned to ignore Japan--until Pearl Harbor MisterP Mar 2014 #106

Actually, the Ukraine is about Kevin Bacon. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #67

I believe Mr. Freeman should have spent whistler162 Mar 2014 #72

ohhhh...I did not see the part where he only studied history for an hour. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #77

I was being slightly snide about his credentials..... whistler162 Mar 2014 #103

Very much agreed. n/t AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #88

With Journalists Under Attack, Crimea Faces ‘Information Crisis’ Ahead Of National Referendum ProSense Mar 2014 #74

World War I was about colonialism for resources. Hmmmm, just like our invasion of Iraq I think lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #76

Did you know that Britain was in Iraq for decades? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #81

And? Still doesn't change the facts: WWI was primarily fought over *European* geopolitical tensions. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #83

I think you are right. Definitely in regard to the outbreak of the war caused by the assassination lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #93

Yeah. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #94

Good information, thanks lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #95

The Ottoman Empire controlled that whole region for about 500 years until western colonialism I lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #92

Mid 1800's the oil tycoons were already trying to snatch everything up Catherina Mar 2014 #113

Russia RAWKS! Putin RAWKS! geek tragedy Mar 2014 #89

Like maybe they want a chance to get rid of the unbelievably bad corruption amandabeech Mar 2014 #91

Wow..."fuckwits"... go west young man Mar 2014 #127

Um, yeah, your parroting of rt.com's dispatches from Putin's desk geek tragedy Mar 2014 #128

Those are your words..not mine. go west young man Mar 2014 #129

Couple that with you seem extra upset tonight. go west young man Mar 2014 #130

Recommend! Great History Lesson...Thanks..! KoKo Mar 2014 #98

Thanks Koko! n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #112

There's always a truth, but it's seldom told by the MSM nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #102

Thanks Catherina - your contributions soundsgreat Mar 2014 #107

Wow, thanks. That's extremely kind and gracious of you n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #114

Hi Catherina. Yep, without a basic knowledge of history and the sciences... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #108

Which is why the educational fight posters like MadFloridian and StarryMessenger Catherina Mar 2014 #116

PS: Unless I miss my guess, I think you'll find this very interesting: Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #109

Thanks, I opened it and will read it tonight Catherina Mar 2014 #115

Extremely chewy, IMHO. Hence why I read it on a beach... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #140

Bookmarked malaise Mar 2014 #120

Best, most detailed in outline, treatment I've ever found of the, say, 1920 thru 1979 period.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #121

Here's why this theory is stupid. ProSense Mar 2014 #117

great point about the olympics JI7 Mar 2014 #119

It's simply about us paying for another war for big oil & gas. Iraq was 3+ trillion, let's just grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #149

This is some serious craziness Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #122

Putin Expressed his Objection to NATO membership in 2008 2banon Mar 2014 #133

+1 n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #139

Of course it's about oil Oilwellian Mar 2014 #145

As our politics lurch further to the right, with the lunatic rich rearranging the world Catherina Mar 2014 #147