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(11,665 posts) Sun Mar 2, 2014, 08:39 PM Mar 2014

Ca. Gov. Jerrry Brown: World is ‘too dangerous’ for a nation of potheads [View all]

Appearing on NBC’s Meet The Press, California Governor Jerry Brown said that he was not prepared to completely legalize marijuana in his state.

Asked by host David Gregory if legalizing marijuana was “a good idea or a bad idea for California?”, Brown replied that he would like to wait and see what happens in Colorado and Washington, two states that recently liberalized their marijuana laws.

“Well, we have medical marijuana, which gets very close to what they have in Colorado and Washington,” he said. “I’d really like those two states to show us how it’s going to work.”

The governor then cautioned against the state giving marijuana ‘legitimacy’.

The problem with anything, a certain amount is okay. But there is a tendency to go to extremes. And all of a sudden, if there’s advertising and legitimacy, how many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation? The world’s pretty dangerous, very competitive,” Brown explained. “I think we need to stay alert, if not 24 hours a day, more than some of the potheads might be able to put together.

Watch the video below from NBC’s Meet The Press:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/02/ca-gov-jerrry-brown-world-is-too-dangerous-for-a-nation-of-potheads/

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Ca. Gov. Jerrry Brown: World is ‘too dangerous’ for a nation of potheads [View all] Playinghardball Mar 2014 OP

Oh, FFS. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #1

dudes a crooked fascist reddread Mar 2014 #2

A bird in the hand - think of the PRISON revenue! -nt- DireStrike Mar 2014 #9

As a Californian, I totally agree with my Governor. Tikki Mar 2014 #3

and how much effect are the two of you having? reddread Mar 2014 #4

pot smokers support the cartels, not non-smokers lindysalsagal Mar 2014 #73

The mob got out of the liquor business when Prohibition was repealed hobbit709 Mar 2014 #83

the cartels support the politicians, and vice versa reddread Mar 2014 #118

And sometimes, especially here in Calif., they are one truedelphi Mar 2014 #235

That's not going to happen. Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #126

If we legalized, the profit would disappear and thus the crime. aquart Mar 2014 #152

Chickens and eggs. I'm afraid either way you're never drying up demand so might as well open Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #179

Cartels? What kind of idiot would smoke Mexican weed in CA? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #233

uh reddread Mar 2014 #234

You think they sell that in CA? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #242

Im pointing to the cartel's involvement in illegal CA production, and their political power reddread Mar 2014 #243

Dude, even animals in the wild get drunk. Phlem Mar 2014 #245

B.S. Mine comes from the dangerous warehouse region of Portland. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #251

I don't nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #10

I have posted this here…legal or not legal, I don't care if people smoke in the privacy.. Tikki Mar 2014 #25

You have a clause in your lease that bans use of alcoholic beverages? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #39

Now you understand why I don't want a pot user living in my property. Tikki Mar 2014 #49

I don't. Throd Mar 2014 #50

I don't understand at all. You have made no case other than "I don't like pot". cleanhippie Mar 2014 #93

Why is booze better than a weed? seveneyes Mar 2014 #99

Does the lease say pot or only "alcoholic beverages"? aquart Mar 2014 #153

I will argue that when I get in my car, I step on the accelorator and go as fast as the car will go MindMover Mar 2014 #53

I bet you can't even tell when the average medical cannabis user is kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #80

You should really educate yourself more on things you don't know about. liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #114

"I don't care if people smoke in the privacy of their own home…" MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #155

There are so many things you are clueless about...... Logical Mar 2014 #213

So as a landlord sabbat hunter Mar 2014 #227

As a Californian, I totally disagree with my Governor Throd Mar 2014 #27

The only reason he is doing it is because of the upcoming election. After that is over he will have lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #54

Ah, the proposition, brought to you by sane Californians .... thank God for propositions ...nt MindMover Mar 2014 #62

In this case yes lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #66

I hope we get some other Dem to vote for Politicalboi Mar 2014 #136

They can use propositions to bypass politicians. I will vote for him since the repugs lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #146

LOL, thanks for the detailed explanation why. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #211

care to expound on your reasons why? Phlem Mar 2014 #246

"The problem with anything, a certain amount is okay. But there is a tendency to go to extremes." MindMover Mar 2014 #5

Actually I want NEITHER driving nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #11

The surest sign of the lazy pot advocate.... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #32

Ok, lets take away all those crutches that humans have .. and call me lazy, that is exactly who I am MindMover Mar 2014 #37

Surest sign of a hypocrite on the subject of mind altering substances Fumesucker Mar 2014 #40

There sure is a lot of hypocrisy on this subject. Mariana Mar 2014 #87

Not a deep thinker I assume? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #215

You've wounded me... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #224

I am guessing you might not be here long. Just a guess. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #226

I've gone to far more "extremes" in my alcohol use than I ever have or will kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #60

LOL! Much needed smack of common sense about pot from someone on the left. reformist2 Mar 2014 #6

Smack is not common sense ... and left he is NOT MindMover Mar 2014 #68

thank you shanti Mar 2014 #75

Wha..what? Cleita Mar 2014 #7

dont forget jumping Arianna's bones reddread Mar 2014 #18

Alright, I'll say it... DireStrike Mar 2014 #8

Sadly, Jerry Brown has become an old man DJ13 Mar 2014 #12

and has sold out to a certain rational that affords his current donor logic ... playin there tune .. MindMover Mar 2014 #48

Old should have the least to do with it... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #165

why is the assumption that hordes of people are suddenly gonna become stoners? KG Mar 2014 #13

exactly, thanks to the black market reddread Mar 2014 #21

Truth. Iggo Mar 2014 #24

That's my thought too. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #30

Not true. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #142

I don't know that making it legal ends drug testing at work. alarimer Mar 2014 #205

Exactly, KG… what an assumption, indeed. MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #160

Jerry Brown goes under the DU bus for stating the obvious. former9thward Mar 2014 #14

Because it is neither obvious or true. Bonobo Mar 2014 #22

BINGO ... MindMover Mar 2014 #29

In college I did some of my best class presentations when a bit high, I was relaxed, must have RKP5637 Mar 2014 #33

I learned thousands of Chinese characters high. Bonobo Mar 2014 #38

Yes, incredible focus! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #41

I found a light buzz to be a very effective tool Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #45

pot helps your brain edit out extraneous distractions mainer Mar 2014 #130

Right, those who aren't high must not know what they are talking about. former9thward Mar 2014 #43

You wouldn't necessarily recognize the ones that are high and productive. Bonobo Mar 2014 #47

Yea a little bit of marijuana can be an enormous productivity booster. phleshdef Mar 2014 #71

My ex son-in-law - 4 car 840high Mar 2014 #74

Me, pot smoker. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #91

And millions drive drunk every day and don't have accidents. former9thward Mar 2014 #97

So, you think that "drunk" and "buzzed" are the same thing? Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #100

I have drove people with a buzz. former9thward Mar 2014 #102

Well, the only way you can "guarantee" Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #103

So, since you bring up science, do you think DUI for pot is illegitimate? former9thward Mar 2014 #104

It is illigitimate. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #105

I went to the article and there are no links to any studies. former9thward Mar 2014 #107

Speaking of "agendas" . . . Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #111

You want studies?? Will a page full of links/facts of studies by the National Institute of Health Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #219

Dear Ghost; former9thward Mar 2014 #222

Well, as a former user who smoked for a little over 40 years out of my 51 years on this Earth, I can Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #256

Her experience Feral Child Mar 2014 #117

Yours will never improve. former9thward Mar 2014 #129

Your opinion is based on your experience and education... MindMover Mar 2014 #141

If your post was intended as a reply to me it makes no sense whatsoever. former9thward Mar 2014 #148

You are the one that makes no sense with your nonsensical reasoning about "the weed" ... MindMover Mar 2014 #149

Each post is more incoherent than the last. former9thward Mar 2014 #151

LOL, you obfuscate to obscure your obvious lack of reasoning ability ... nice try MindMover Mar 2014 #154

I do know what I'm talking about. former9thward Mar 2014 #156

Prove it, I can .... MindMover Mar 2014 #157

I'll be waiting for that proof... former9thward Mar 2014 #159

Is a Doctorate in Psychology with an addiction specialty, enough tech .... MindMover Mar 2014 #163

Ok, let me get this straight... former9thward Mar 2014 #166

Maybe you should watch this, because your rationale is really lacking in this thread ... enjoy MindMover Mar 2014 #167

I don't listen to propaganda from either side. former9thward Mar 2014 #170

No propaganda, this is the emotional side of your position on the evil weed ... MindMover Mar 2014 #171

Where did I say weed was "evil"? former9thward Mar 2014 #173

The movie defines weed as evil and that is what I was referring to ... however you state ... MindMover Mar 2014 #194

Thank you for quoting me accurately. former9thward Mar 2014 #198

What little experience you have had, you have formed an opinion about ... MindMover Mar 2014 #201

Very rude, very judgmental. Feral Child Mar 2014 #145

Use the ignore feature if you don't want to hear from me. former9thward Mar 2014 #147

I've conjugated lots of sentences while high. Think about it. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #223

I'd rather not. former9thward Mar 2014 #225

Point being, you're awfully high and mighty for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #229

Ohh, the language police have arrived. former9thward Mar 2014 #238

Good heavens, where do you live? Mariana Mar 2014 #232

Really? Please do cite the statistics on pot use and income status. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #64

You cite them. former9thward Mar 2014 #89

Right. No pal, you're the one asserting that there is a problem that justifies criminalization. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #96

Show the post where I said it deserves criminalization. former9thward Mar 2014 #98

So when you agreed with Brown that pot should remain illegal Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #113

Show that post. former9thward Mar 2014 #115

You agreed with Brown's statement supporting continued criminalization of pot. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #120

Lying again. former9thward Mar 2014 #128

What a silly game you're playing. I hope you're entertained. I'm not. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #182

Hmmm, someone suddenly coming in on a sub-thread to defend a poster .... former9thward Mar 2014 #184

I'm suspicious why you would be suspicious. What are you insinuating? I read your string of posts, Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #186

No, a beer and a cigar is my vice. former9thward Mar 2014 #190

Different stroke for different folks. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #191

Well, you must have SOME idea... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #164

Anything I said would be denounced as "anecdotal." former9thward Mar 2014 #169

"religious people"…? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #172

What you say is your opinion and anecdotal. former9thward Mar 2014 #174

The point is that you have no intention to add content to what you think... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #254

Jerry is far from progressive. truedelphi Mar 2014 #231

I like Brown. former9thward Mar 2014 #241

I don't doubt for one minute that Brown gets people to work together. truedelphi Mar 2014 #248

You don't see me. I am a roody Mar 2014 #67

I was one of the most productive workers Politicalboi Mar 2014 #137

Oh, you have THC-ray vision? You have no idea who's high and who is not. PassingFair Mar 2014 #196

Yes I do. former9thward Mar 2014 #199

You also don't go through life with blood tests on you. PassingFair Mar 2014 #207

You must live a sheltered life. former9thward Mar 2014 #208

And you must live a delusional one. PassingFair Mar 2014 #210

.... laundry_queen Mar 2014 #244

Seriously. Judge people on their behavior, not what you think their behavior might be Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #79

I still like Jerry Brown a lot. But he is showing his ignorance on this one. phleshdef Mar 2014 #70

Do you think Jerry Brown dropped in from Mars? former9thward Mar 2014 #90

Brown told an Obvious lie or he has a severe lack of intelligence seveneyes Mar 2014 #106

Is he now a "fascist" as he had been called in this thread? former9thward Mar 2014 #108

I would not go that far seveneyes Mar 2014 #109

As must the God of Repetitive Stupid Shit must also be invoked... repetitively. LanternWaste Mar 2014 #123

I guess conflating drug policy and a "god of pot" is mentally convenient... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #121

So Brown is a fascist? former9thward Mar 2014 #127

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #143

Its so funny when weapons get pointed at bystanders and fired reddread Mar 2014 #162

dude, back away from the keyboard... Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #178

uh, yeah. when you sponsor and applaud the most violent of reprisals. yeah. reddread Mar 2014 #158

So we have a fascist heading the biggest state in the OP. former9thward Mar 2014 #161

He is just another politician ... however MindMover Mar 2014 #192

Anyone who would describe Brown as a fascist based on his comments is insane. former9thward Mar 2014 #193

I know the definition of insanity and disruption is exactly what you have been doing in this thread MindMover Mar 2014 #195

You are doubling down that Brown is a fascist. former9thward Mar 2014 #197

I am not doubling down on anything, I am giving you a definition and you ... MindMover Mar 2014 #200

A poster called Brown a fascist. former9thward Mar 2014 #203

I did, you little mccarthyite, say my name reddread Mar 2014 #209

I could care less what you post. former9thward Mar 2014 #214

Could you please refrain from name calling and enter your argument or opinion intelligently ... MindMover Mar 2014 #216

Perhaps you only selectively read posts. former9thward Mar 2014 #218

you would hold me accountable but not someone who has punished protesters SEVERELY? reddread Mar 2014 #221

If the govs behavior, defined by someone other than me, elicits being called a fascist ... SoBeIt MindMover Mar 2014 #212

I think the poster was referring to his roody Mar 2014 #230

We didn't have a fascist as Mayor of Oakland. former9thward Mar 2014 #239

Has he even been to California? Throd Mar 2014 #15

LMAO ... madness I say, madness ... total madness ... MindMover Mar 2014 #31

Coward tabasco Mar 2014 #16

Yeah, what we need is a bunch of Drunk, Cold Killers PeoViejo Mar 2014 #17

Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #19

You gotta be kidding me… Governor "Moonbeam" … ???? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #20

Moonbeam is also pro Fracking while his state suffers a terrible drought Champion Jack Mar 2014 #56

He also lost his mind... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #72

...who governs the... CanSocDem Mar 2014 #112

Alcohol's legal. Are we a nation of alcoholics? Iggo Mar 2014 #23

+1 nt nyquil_man Mar 2014 #36

It's California, Jerry Nevernose Mar 2014 #26

+1 mike_c Mar 2014 #35

So, following that logic, booze should immediately be banned in CA except for medical RKP5637 Mar 2014 #28

remember, CA has an immense prison population and very powerful police and prison guard lobbies.... mike_c Mar 2014 #34

This ^^^ and their free confiscated stash. libdem4life Mar 2014 #58

Exactly. jsr Mar 2014 #124

Oh ffs. Potheads like Carl Sagan--- or Steve Jobs? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #42

...or Jerry Brown? Iggo Mar 2014 #46

+1 n/t jaysunb Mar 2014 #51

no need to insult smokers. Brown is simply STUPID. reddread Mar 2014 #119

Do you think he really smoked? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #168

oh that gives me the creeps reddread Mar 2014 #175

Yes, I think he really smoked. Iggo Mar 2014 #249

hee-hee... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #255

Yikes! polichick Mar 2014 #44

No surprise he is coming up for an election. lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #52

Does not matter just put it up as a proposition, problem solved lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #55

As opposed to the nation of drunkards that we currently are.............. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #57

Would he prefer a nation or state of criminals or drunks? fujiyama Mar 2014 #61

Another privileged boomer who did his drugs back then and now wants to bust everyone. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #65

He is just another politician ... MindMover Mar 2014 #69

I usually like Jerry Brown but some things hes says and does is just full of shit. Lint Head Mar 2014 #76

"Pothead" explains his silence when Feds were busting down medical-marijuana Trillo Mar 2014 #77

If a deity told me I had to make the decision defacto7 Mar 2014 #78

Yawn, Jerry. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #81

All new ideas start first in Cal... er, Colorado. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #252

He's wrong, if the whole world were potheads, no one would be capable of violence. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #82

! Octafish Mar 2014 #88

I think they might be capable, just disinterested in the destructive notion of it. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #185

Ca. Gov. Jerrry Brown: World is ‘too dangerous’ for a nation of drunks, outlaws booze. Scuba Mar 2014 #84

It is funny about the double standard, although not truedelphi Mar 2014 #236

no way man! nolkyz Mar 2014 #85

Right, it's the dope that is destroying America, not the corrupt, venal politicians. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #86

Does Jerry Brown know that there rae more persons high on legal malaise Mar 2014 #92

As a COLORADOAN (insert happy giggle here) I think the good Governor Autumn Mar 2014 #94

Hickenlooper wasn't real happy either but SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #133

True, but Frackenlooper is for it now. Those tax dollars Autumn Mar 2014 #180

"The only thing we have to fear is... getting too stoned to be scared shitless 24/7" ? KurtNYC Mar 2014 #95

"I think we need to stay ALERT, if not 24 hours a day" kenny blankenship Mar 2014 #101

"...MY AURA SMILES AND NEVER FROWNS... sibelian Mar 2014 #110

Someone should tell the governor about this alcohol stuff. nt valerief Mar 2014 #116

Had I been born in '79 Feral Child Mar 2014 #122

Hint: California Correctional Peace Officers Association. jsr Mar 2014 #125

BIGGER hint: 2016 reddread Mar 2014 #132

Legalized weed = fewer prisoners tularetom Mar 2014 #131

People don't go to prison for weed possession in CA. former9thward Mar 2014 #150

would you please get something right? reddread Mar 2014 #176

Will you please get something right? former9thward Mar 2014 #177

possession is hardly the only possible charge reddread Mar 2014 #181

I said you don't go to jail for possession in CA. former9thward Mar 2014 #183

you responded to this post reddread Mar 2014 #187

LOL former9thward Mar 2014 #188

There are a lot of marijuana related things you can go to prison for besides possession tularetom Mar 2014 #202

I said possession. former9thward Mar 2014 #206

I didn't move no stinking goalposts, you're the one who brought up possession tularetom Mar 2014 #217

No, I was responding to a poster who said the guards had job security because of marijuana. former9thward Mar 2014 #220

You're a hoot! tularetom Mar 2014 #228

But they do go to prison for growing it and selling it. Iggo Mar 2014 #250

Jerry Browns complete ignorance of strains of Cannibis and it's effects on people SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #134

FU Jerry Politicalboi Mar 2014 #135

But a nation of drunks, that's just fucking A-OK NickB79 Mar 2014 #138

If by potheads he means lazy people, he's right jmowreader Mar 2014 #139

Oh brother. City Lights Mar 2014 #140

Brown exaggerates Excelsyor Mar 2014 #144

And it's also too dangerous for a nation of drunks - be they wet or dry. Example: the Bush Admin. haele Mar 2014 #189

If the governor truly believes what he's spouting theaocp Mar 2014 #204

Jerry, it is not up to you. It is up truedelphi Mar 2014 #237

Oh get a sense of perspective Governor Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #240

I will have to say Phlem Mar 2014 #247

A nation of drunks, he says. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #253