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Bluenorthwest

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6. If you review the history of how that 'very clear wording was added to the bill' you will find
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:17 PM
Mar 2014

that the wording allowing for State Innovation was crafted by Ron Wyden and was the result of active involvement by people in and out of Congress who wanted to open the law to improvements such as the one Vermont has already kicked off. Some people at that time called the activism that got those provisions made law harsh criticism, those who were supporting the law as it was did not take part in the push for State innovation to be part of the ACA, they sat around harping at those who did take part in that push that we 'wanted a pony' and were going to 'let the perfect be the enemy of the good'. Of course the moment the provision was included everyone loved it, claimed it and forgot they had whined about the 'critics' that insisted upon it.

My take on this is ... frazzled Mar 2014 #1
Excellent post . Thank you. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #2
Yes, you said it much better than I did. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #3
Your OP was great frazzled Mar 2014 #4
Thank you. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #11
My frustrations come when ANY criticism of any policy is painted with the broad brush of "purism". Scuba Mar 2014 #5
Welcome to DU Frazzled. I agree with your advice. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #17
Very well said...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #18
This is awesome! I also suggest an OP Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #33
That was so good to hear... Whisp Mar 2014 #46
Nailed it in the first post. And what gets me about the type of people you have described Number23 Mar 2014 #51
If you review the history of how that 'very clear wording was added to the bill' you will find Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #6
+1, the OP has some chutzpah. /nt Marr Mar 2014 #10
Excellent post. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #12
Good point. polichick Mar 2014 #25
exactly zipplewrath Mar 2014 #27
Huh? Vermont's healthcare system really hasn't much to do with the ACA cali Mar 2014 #7
Initially, ACA did not allow for States to make better programs, the State Innovation Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #8
So the initial ACA made single payer illegal MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #52
Wrong. Vermont could not do it without the funding provided by the ACA. pnwmom Mar 2014 #24
I'm sorry, but I've lived here and been engaged with politics here for over 30 years cali Mar 2014 #41
They've been working on it for 20 years, and haven't succeeded -- pnwmom Mar 2014 #44
The funding is what I was referring to. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #48
Welcome to DU, BBR Esq. pnwmom Mar 2014 #49
Thank you. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #50
Why should we listen to you about Vermont? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #35
lol. because Vermont has no more of a heroin epidemic than any other state cali Mar 2014 #42
Hiding subtle stuff in "very clever wording" is not what you do to get progressive applause. bemildred Mar 2014 #9
Huh? BBR Esq Mar 2014 #13
That's good to know. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #14
Hopefully, many decades after Canada did so..... joanbarnes Mar 2014 #15
It only took us 60 years to abolish slavery after England did it... eggplant Mar 2014 #19
And it has been 60 years sense England adopted universal health care zeemike Mar 2014 #22
Yup. eggplant Mar 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Jack Rabbit Mar 2014 #16
You always can. The question is whether you will. ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #20
"frothing-at-the-mouth dross and bullshit I have to wade through here to find it gets tiresome" Fumesucker Mar 2014 #26
It IS remarkable the there are people that just HATE this site now, yet continuously Rex Mar 2014 #32
Poster was very clear as to why Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #36
The poster could do that without adding to the bullshit Fumesucker Mar 2014 #47
Interesting that you can only see one side, those who are often critical Fumesucker Mar 2014 #21
I'm not above anyone as far as this subject goes. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #23
So, no answer then to his question? Rex Mar 2014 #31
I'm not fond of party over substance. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #37
I'm angry with your party, too. Iggo Mar 2014 #29
Huh? BBR Esq Mar 2014 #39
So how do you feel about blind hero worship? Rex Mar 2014 #30
Bad thing. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #38
The plan that my children and I are on lumps us all together and we have a family liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #34
I completely agree with your assessment. Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #40
We needed a public service, and was given a consumer product 1000words Mar 2014 #43
At this stage no credit is due, you are speaking of things that are not as though they were. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #45
You inadvertently forgot to credit the Heritage Foundation? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #53
Ron Wyden is a member of the Heritage Foundation? BBR Esq Mar 2014 #55
No, but could Wyden and Bernie have filed the amendment MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #56
The ACA is not bad.... for a Republican "Market Based" Solution... bvar22 Mar 2014 #54
Hell yeah. Pelosi deserves our thanks. RobertEarl Mar 2014 #57
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