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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:27 AM Mar 2012

Barack Obama and Treyvon Martin [View all]

I'll preface this by saying I'm a caucasian woman, and that affects my veiws on this.

I was listening to an NPR story interview this morning with a writer who, as a black mother, spoke about "the Talk" that black parents have with their sons when they reach pre-adolescence. She and her sons talked about this and the Treyvon Martin murder.

I recalled being pulled over by police - for no reason - when I was a passenger in the very expensive car of a black male friend. I saw his demeanor turn into an uncharacteristic "yes sir, yes sir," and "You have a nice day, sir." I was stunned. I had heard about "Driving while Black" but certainly hadn't experienced it. I was angry, and I wished that he had questioned the officer more directly about why he had been stopped. My friend sighed, and told me that's how his dad taught him to deal with this situation. His dad had given him "the Talk" when he was 12, when his family came back from being stationed in military service in Thailand.

I realize that much of my frustration with Obama, and his perceived kowtowing to whatever powers that be must have to do with "the Talk" that he must have recieved when he reached adolescence.

He must have experienced being looked at as the "Thug in the hoodie" anywhere in the dominant culture where he's worked. He has to walk that line between "Yes, sir, have a nice day, sir" and "You people will NEVER believe that I am anything but a threat to you, so deal with me."

Treyvon's murder jolted me into the realization that Obama has to work 20 times as hard as any white president to mitigate the perception that he's a threat - a thankless, perhaps futile job that I will never fully appreciate as a white woman.

Obama is in the whitest gated community in the world - the White House. He's "driving while black" in the wealthiest neighborhood in the world - the Executive Branch of the United States.

I'm not going to be pissed off at him anymore (or at least as pissed off) for dealing with crackers of this country with kid gloves.




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+ 1,000,000 ! Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #1
As far as your comment about President Obama, I don't see it that way. madaboutharry Mar 2012 #2
I think it is a bit of both. nevergiveup Mar 2012 #3
There have been times when I wanted him to play hardball - and not bend over backwards for Boehner. ehrnst Mar 2012 #4
Again, ehrnst, I couldn't agree more... Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #17
Ooooh, Nooooo you have it all wrong A wise Man Mar 2012 #33
It's less a question of some imagined "TALK" that Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #5
Don't underestimate white mothers - my sister had this talk with her 3 black daughters. Because it jwirr Mar 2012 #49
Certainly not underestimating the Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #59
You cant have a reasonable and intellectually honest debate rhett o rick Mar 2012 #6
I think it's some of both frazzled Mar 2012 #9
I DO see him not wanting to perpetuate the "angry black man" perception in his uponit7771 Mar 2012 #12
I would imagine it is in the back of his mind - TBF Mar 2012 #20
I prefer this man's approach to Barack's. It was more genuine, honest, and dignified. leveymg Mar 2012 #7
This man could never have been elected Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #21
Absolutely, not even in Harlem, then. That points something out about the US political process leveymg Mar 2012 #40
IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #62
The "liberal" New York media (when it was still really NY based and liberal) demonized the Muslims leveymg Mar 2012 #65
I've been doing a lot of studying on the Civil Rights Movement lately boxman15 Mar 2012 #74
Agree. Without those pushing for radical change, there is no reason to accomodate reform. leveymg Mar 2012 #75
Well every parent gives their kids 'the talk' at some point lunatica Mar 2012 #8
A coworker dealt with DWB on the way home from the airport LynneSin Mar 2012 #10
By law, a person has to give consent for their car to be searched unless they have a warrant. FourScore Mar 2012 #35
This was about 10 years ago and the MD state police were investigated LynneSin Mar 2012 #39
THOUSAND TIMES marshall gaines Mar 2012 #66
When it happens to you in the dead of the night KeepItReal Mar 2012 #72
Unfortunately, that is the reality. You nailed it. n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #76
SMH Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #64
lol uponit7771 Mar 2012 #11
What's funny? DURHAM D Mar 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #18
Enjoy your stay ecstatic Mar 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #24
If you believe there was no trauma in Kenya under the British, you need to go back to school leveymg Mar 2012 #43
You would think a right wing troll would know by now DFW Mar 2012 #45
Yeah, you're right! FourScore Mar 2012 #28
Wow, does he have zebra stripes? Are his Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #31
What's funny? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #15
What's funny? n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #22
My white husband was stopped in a "well to do" neighborhood HockeyMom Mar 2012 #14
That kind of incident is not limited to the USA DFW Mar 2012 #44
obsfucation marshall gaines Mar 2012 #67
K & R! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #16
It's acceptable to use "crackers" handy hannah Mar 2012 #19
Are you at the library again? nt DURHAM D Mar 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #27
I will say goodbye now. DURHAM D Mar 2012 #30
I was just on a jury voting to hide that post. Hope the other five agreed. yardwork Mar 2012 #34
She has now been PPRed. DURHAM D Mar 2012 #37
I'm sure freepers would find it hilarious. They live in opposite world. yardwork Mar 2012 #41
I miss the tombstones. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #54
The tombstones were a nice a touch. n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #68
Mr. President is one of the greatest Presidents, possibly 2nd or 3rd in line despite rich crackers. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #32
Yes. ehrnst Mar 2012 #46
I was always puzzled by people who pressed Obama to "get angry" . . . janet118 Mar 2012 #25
While I appreciate you are giving the President the benefit of the doubt, this post bothers me. Skinner Mar 2012 #29
I agree 100% nt ecstatic Mar 2012 #42
I agree with both the original post and your post... Frustratedlady Mar 2012 #47
That's why I wrote "perceived Kowtowing." (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #48
You have articulated this very well, Skinner. FourScore Mar 2012 #51
I agree Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #53
I see it exactly the same way. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #55
I agree with you 100%. . . daligirl519 Mar 2012 #56
I completely agree with you Skinner and I am African American goclark Mar 2012 #57
Finally a post with a clue aside from the LOL one which I had to agree with. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #61
Absolutely right. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #73
Great post. However, I don't think anyone had "The Talk" with Barack. Tatiana Mar 2012 #36
I also stated that these experiences, along with the symbolic "talk" have influenced him.(nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #52
if that were true, than we should have not elected him, because he's black Enrique Mar 2012 #38
I don't see why that means we should not vote for him. ehrnst Mar 2012 #50
IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #58
In all honesty I don't think Obama ever got the "talk." I know Black parents do this. vaberella Mar 2012 #60
I know white parents that give the talk to their brown adopted sons. ehrnst Mar 2012 #70
As I stated I don't know if White parents do. vaberella Mar 2012 #71
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! Swede Mar 2012 #63
That was great. I love Chris Rock! FourScore Mar 2012 #69
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