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MoonRiver

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83. I think it has to do with the sequence of shots.

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:47 AM

Feb 2014

There were several initial shots, then a long pause before the second volley. Speculation is that this pause represents premeditation. Dunn could have stopped after the first shots, which he states were based on fear of being killed, but he didn't. So he had to think about and plan the second round of shots. Does that make sense??

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Closing arguments begin in Michael Dunn murder trial [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 OP

State closing argument starting now. nt alsame Feb 2014 #1

Bumping yours up Tommy JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #2

I think she did a good, clear alsame Feb 2014 #3

What are all the charges on the table? nt avebury Feb 2014 #5

Murder 1, Murder 2 and alsame Feb 2014 #6

Also 3 counts attempted 1st degree murder. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #7

I missed that, thanks nt alsame Feb 2014 #8

Thanks for the heads up and link nt independentpiney Feb 2014 #4

Hope this jury gets it right, unlike some other juries. n/t Jamastiene Feb 2014 #9

The prosecutor is doing great. Sissyk Feb 2014 #10

Yes she is MoonRiver Feb 2014 #11

I agree. nt alsame Feb 2014 #14

Makes me wonder just why they fucked up the last case so badly... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #19

I don't know, Blue_Tires, Sissyk Feb 2014 #20

IMO it was always a alsame Feb 2014 #22

Doing a good job IMHO. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #23

LOL, that's true!! nt alsame Feb 2014 #24

I agree about their voices. Sissyk Feb 2014 #25

I totally agree! nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #36

This case is so heartbreaking, it's been tough to follow and not cry. MerryBlooms Feb 2014 #12

If they don't then justice will have been thwarted arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #37

Why did the kids go back alsame Feb 2014 #13

I think they were meeting the police there. But I'm not compeletely sure. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #15

Ok, that makes sense. nt alsame Feb 2014 #16

The driver who had stolen a car in the past avebury Feb 2014 #17

Thanks nt alsame Feb 2014 #18

I thought it was because their buddy was dying Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #32

Yes, Wolfson clarified this in alsame Feb 2014 #35

To get help once Dunn left, I believe. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #74

I watched various clips of his testimony yesterday on MSNBC Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #21

He is so obviously alsame Feb 2014 #26

Seriously, I don't see how they can possibly not convict him of Murder One. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #28

Me either. But after the alsame Feb 2014 #40

That worries me too MoonRiver Feb 2014 #44

Here's on the big differences in my mind. Sissyk Feb 2014 #53

Yeah, that was Jodi Arias' big mistake. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #54

Dunn reminded me a lot of Arias TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #64

I saw those similarities also. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #67

Exactly! Sissyk Feb 2014 #70

This is very true. I think there's also alsame Feb 2014 #60

I feel there is an excellent chance that Dunn will be found guilty. ... spin Feb 2014 #56

What I still don't understand MoonRiver Feb 2014 #68

While it isn't often discussed... spin Feb 2014 #71

this is what is weird about SYG- it is supposed to be used to avoid unfair trials- but you have bettyellen Feb 2014 #62

That's a solid point. I agree totally. (n/t) spin Feb 2014 #72

I was shocked to see it was somehow included in the jury's instructions for Zimmerman. bettyellen Feb 2014 #86

They were included because it's the law kcr Feb 2014 #91

I don't get it- if they do notget the benefit of the doubt it was SYG, why should they get bettyellen Feb 2014 #92

They shouldn't have kcr Feb 2014 #94

I suspected that but was unable to verify it on the net. (n/t) spin Feb 2014 #95

Jury Composition alsame Feb 2014 #27

That was an awesome closing by this young prosecutor! MoonRiver Feb 2014 #29

I hope it gets posted to youtube so that avebury Feb 2014 #30

Yes, they are on recess. Not sure when trial will resume. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #31

Judge said they would have alsame Feb 2014 #33

see "croakerqueen123" on YouTube TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #66

It was perfect Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #34

Kicking - back in session Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #38

How long does the defense get for its closing? nt avebury Feb 2014 #39

As long as they want Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #41

It seems like the defense is alsame Feb 2014 #42

Some kids have imaginary playmates. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #43

Just heard defense concluded closing argument. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #45

I heard all but the end. Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #46

Probably did the best he could with the crap case he has. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #47

Pretty much. Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #48

He spent a lot of time trying to alsame Feb 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #50

Kevin Costn--Err, I mean John Guy on the clock. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #51

Guy is giving the final prosecution closing. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #52

I missed the initial closing for the prosecution ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #57

The State's Rebuttal Closing ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #58

Yeah he's a little over the top Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #59

Judge about to give jury instructions. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #61

I have wondered WHY they don't bring up the issue of waiting until the next day onecent Feb 2014 #63

The State did raise it in their rebuttal closing. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #65

Jury instructions done. Waiting alsame Feb 2014 #69

Just heard there are 2 AA women on the jury. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #73

Best news I've heard today :) nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #75

Per HLN, the jury just asked to see alsame Feb 2014 #76

Yes, and there is great debate about what that means. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #77

Let's hope. nt alsame Feb 2014 #78

How does that question figure into pre-meditation? nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #80

I think it has to do with the sequence of shots. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #83

Oh, ok...that makes sense, thanks! We may arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #84

Hoping so! MoonRiver Feb 2014 #85

That's what I want! My daughter and I were arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #87

I know what you mean. My whole family was in shock. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #88

That's exactly how we felt and we cried for his arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #89

... Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #90

I gather you are a fan of the SYG law. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #93

Fan is not the term I would use. Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #96

Indeed. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #97

Jury is done for the night. Will see alsame Feb 2014 #79

I haven't been able to watch the trial...did the boys in the car testify? Sancho Feb 2014 #81

Yes, all three testified. I didn't see any alsame Feb 2014 #82