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2. It's not complicated. We want a liberal. Obama and Hillary are Republicans. nt

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You wouldn't vote for Hillary because Obama was allegedly way more liberal. [View all] boston bean Feb 2014 OP

What? When did I say that? cui bono Feb 2014 #1

It's not complicated. We want a liberal. Obama and Hillary are Republicans. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #2

I don't know any republicans who would agree with that last sentence. pampango Feb 2014 #3

the 1956 Republican platform was to the left of the 2008 and 2012 Democratic ones. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #5

You are right. Ike brought them 8 years of sanity that has not been matched since. n/t pampango Feb 2014 #7

An its insane if the modern Democratic Party is also to the right of it Armstead Feb 2014 #70

You deserve a heart for that one. pangaia Feb 2014 #40

It is not 1956 anymore krawhitham Feb 2014 #105

If they were honest they would, and on some conservative forums some do... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #6

"there is basically nothing Obama has done or proposed that would bar him from the GOP mainstream." pampango Feb 2014 #14

There is basically nothing about your post that is true or that geek tragedy Feb 2014 #16

As per usual. FSogol Feb 2014 #34

You seem to confuse purity with party loyalty.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #49

No, it's a matter of plain fact that Obama is a mainstream Democrat neither geek tragedy Feb 2014 #53

After her vote to slash food stamps the jury is out om Warren... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #58

To which vote are you referring? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #64

Here you go... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #69

you realize every Democrat not from Rhode Island voted with her, right? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #71

Not really. He's to the right of center all economic issues cui bono Feb 2014 #131

Obama derangement syndrome in full bloom here. JTFrog Feb 2014 #95

They wouldn't agree that climate change is real AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #63

President calls himself a 1990 moderate republican. I wouldn't have voted for such a person then Doctor_J Feb 2014 #86

I don't see it in this analysis from Nate Silver. pampango Feb 2014 #92

I don't know any Democrats that would either...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #94

Asinine BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #29

FFS... SidDithers Feb 2014 #30

What nonsense.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #33

Mitt Romney first implemented an Obamacare style law when he was governor of Mass. Romulox Feb 2014 #42

We're supposed to pretend that didn't happen... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #61

Yup. Like "Let's pretend Obama doesn't have to deal with a Gerrymandered Congress" NT Adrahil Feb 2014 #91

Better, 'Let's pretend he had this congress while passing HeritageCare' Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #108

No way single payer would have passed.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #110

And in failing we woild have known who to remove. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #116

No, but what probably would have passed had we started at single payer? Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #117

He also jettisoned the public option, which was extremely popular in polls. woo me with science Feb 2014 #118

Nope. But to claim he's a republican is crazy. Adrahil Feb 2014 #90

Ahh. Phlem Feb 2014 #124

What a guy... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #56

Blasphemy! woo me with science Feb 2014 #106

+1 Marr Feb 2014 #109

He repealed DADT? hfojvt Feb 2014 #140

Good point. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #149

You guys aren't even TRYING to hide these days no? tia uponit7771 Feb 2014 #60

Nope Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #72

yup. Phlem Feb 2014 #126

We do not need another Dem that's less liberal than Nixon Broward Feb 2014 #67

For transparancy Sissyk Feb 2014 #98

Good jury. woo me with science Feb 2014 #115

Hi woo me with science! Sissyk Feb 2014 #119

I don't think he is a Republican, either. woo me with science Feb 2014 #121

or a "New Democrat". Phlem Feb 2014 #127

Exactly. I mean, look at the GOP platform. Tell me Obama and Hillary aren't Republicans... Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #102

like repuglicans would have done some of the things Obama has accomplished... Whisp Feb 2014 #123

The ACA is a step away from fairer HC system Doctor_J Feb 2014 #156

well you go tell that to parents of kids with expensive diseases Whisp Feb 2014 #157

that's right. it's a bad record. but it's hardly the fault of the slice of the electorate that you cali Feb 2014 #4

I'm just glad you'll be fully supporting Hillary if she wins the Dem nomination Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #96

Well said. nt woo me with science Feb 2014 #125

We *knew* that Hillary was a right-wing kook with a track record of losing political battles MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #8

Like I say. I'll take it with a grain of salt. boston bean Feb 2014 #9

That's great! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #11

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #15

LBJ didn't pass universal health insurance reform? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #21

Sure he did, that's why there was no need to do anything more. ProSense Feb 2014 #26

I notice that you skipped my other question. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #28

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #32

And Voting Rights. And implemented them in less than 2 years Doctor_J Feb 2014 #87

I thought Reagan won over 51 percent in 1980 and 1984 yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #54

Well, ProSense Feb 2014 #62

I am yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #66

you Better Believe It! nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #17

The Stark Fist of Removal awaits MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #25

A right-wing kook? Beacool Feb 2014 #74

Which is why the right-wing kooks, MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #85

I'm just glad you'll fully support Hillary if she wins the Dem nomination Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #97

Clinton's platform was distinctly left off Obama in 2008 joshcryer Feb 2014 #147

Hillary will be to Obama what McCain was to Bush, but... DetlefK Feb 2014 #10

I am not sure to whom this post is addressed. Laelth Feb 2014 #12

'successful stint as Secretary of State"? anasv Feb 2014 #22

If you're suggesting HRC was not a good SoS, I respectfully disagree. Laelth Feb 2014 #24

It's addressed to Willy T Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #38

Good to know. Thanks. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #41

my problem with Hillary is that she is a wall street corporatist and a war monger. magical thyme Feb 2014 #13

At the time I supported Hillary justiceischeap Feb 2014 #18

That's BS. ananda Feb 2014 #19

my problems with Hillary anasv Feb 2014 #20

If Hillary wasn't so anti marijuana, I could be persuaded. B Calm Feb 2014 #23

I didn't vote for her the last time. HappyMe Feb 2014 #27

I'll vote for her! Adrahil Feb 2014 #31

We mirror those people who accuse John McCain of being liberal. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #35

who ever accused Obama of being liberal?????? bowens43 Feb 2014 #36

As far as I remember... Phentex Feb 2014 #154

I wouldn't vote for Hillary because Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #37

wow. nt boston bean Feb 2014 #39

Obama campaigned from the Left, but has governed as a "centrist". There is no contradiction Romulox Feb 2014 #43

The question is about how reliable these opinions are if they were so wrong. boston bean Feb 2014 #44

You're blaming the victim. We were lied to. That doesn't mean Hillary isn't a "centrist". nt Romulox Feb 2014 #45

No. boston bean Feb 2014 #47

So...doubling down on blaming the electorate for being lied to. That doesn't make Hillary look Romulox Feb 2014 #50

I'm not trying to make any one look better. boston bean Feb 2014 #55

You're trying to cajole people into supporting Hillary with a poorly thought out "gotcha" Romulox Feb 2014 #57

No, I am not. I'll discuss any issue. The issue here boston bean Feb 2014 #59

You say that with your topic, then the body of your message goes back to the "gotcha" type argument. Romulox Feb 2014 #65

Did I get you? My assumption is no. boston bean Feb 2014 #78

... Phlem Feb 2014 #128

Campaign left, govern right is the SOP for the DLC...or New Dems as they prefer to be called now. NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #52

You've gotta love it when they come back later and say, "well, you voted for it!!!". Marr Feb 2014 #113

Corporate rhetorical contortions woo me with science Feb 2014 #136

no he didn't joshcryer Feb 2014 #148

That isn't it. I just don't like her, or trust her, enough to elect her to anything. TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #46

I was saying the two were very similar during the primaries. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #48

It's because Dem candidate selections are vetted, then backed, by Wall Street. NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #51

When it came to policy, Obama and Clinton's were quite similar. Beacool Feb 2014 #68

his rhetoric while running in 2007-2008 was appreciably to the left of Clinton cali Feb 2014 #73

Maybe it's the way I listened to it. Beacool Feb 2014 #76

and Hillary has a razor thin believability factor. Whisp Feb 2014 #129

Shoo, Whisp. Beacool Feb 2014 #132

Hey! Whisp Feb 2014 #133

I remember that interview. Beacool Feb 2014 #137

You can keep your stinky to yourself too, mate. Whisp Feb 2014 #138

Well, he might as well wipe his shoulder, he's getting the same storm too. Beacool Feb 2014 #139

In fact, they were so similar, that most Democrats would have voted JoePhilly Feb 2014 #80

The folks here screaming the loudest are a tiny minority of the party. Beacool Feb 2014 #81

Exactly ... and have you noticed ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #82

Exactly. Beacool Feb 2014 #84

they DID see Obama that way joshcryer Feb 2014 #150

Some of them Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #141

I agree with you that it doesn't make a lot of sense el_bryanto Feb 2014 #75

All through that primary I held the very unpopular opinion that they were virtual Twin Candidates Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #77

I did vote for Hillary in the primaries in 2008. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #79

Speaking only for myself Proud Public Servant Feb 2014 #83

Agreed! Some of the anti-Hillary stuff here is confusing. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #88

Being too liberal isn't the problem. Both being too conservative is the problem. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #89

What it shows is holding good thoughts is not what matters BainsBane Feb 2014 #93

No...many said Obama was enough different to justify support Armstead Feb 2014 #99

... Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #100

I would argue that you made their point Renew Deal Feb 2014 #101

I wouldn't say third term of Obama, I'd say 5th term of Bush Victor_c3 Feb 2014 #103

+1000000.....Or, more accurately, woo me with science Feb 2014 #107

I DID NOT vote for Hillary and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY because ... Martin Eden Feb 2014 #104

Apparently poor judgement in matters of war is not big deal when it's Hillary. n/t Whisp Feb 2014 #134

No need to scream, we can all read without the Caps. Beacool Feb 2014 #144

Sometimes I feel like SHOUTING Martin Eden Feb 2014 #152

You are shouting at your fellow DU members. Beacool Feb 2014 #153

Sometimes they need to be shouted at. Martin Eden Feb 2014 #155

So many people thought that both were about the same sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #111

It wasn't that Obama was more liberal, but a bit less hawkish... polichick Feb 2014 #112

Actually back then, in 2008, I didn't like either of them. Xyzse Feb 2014 #114

Same here deutsey Feb 2014 #120

She is nothing like Obama. Whisp Feb 2014 #122

Well this much is true, the ACA he signed is the reform she ran on, while he ran on what Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #143

Obama is against stupid wars Whisp Feb 2014 #145

It's Ridic! and Untrue! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #130

LOL! You did this too? Rex Feb 2014 #135

the fact is that most who voted for Obama and Hillary did so because they liked that candidate JI7 Feb 2014 #142

agreed, anyone who thought Obama was liberal is not credible joshcryer Feb 2014 #146

Shit, I'm not convinced he isn't and I'm less than pleased but that wasn't the key piece anyway TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #151

This is too deep for me nt fadedrose Feb 2014 #158