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In reply to the discussion: Yes, this is still a racist, sexist, unequal world. [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)290. So sad to see you preaching the same hate filled notions about "uppity" people causing racial strife
and that is EXACTLY what you are claiming on this thread.
You are posting nonsense. You know one person (me or anyone) is not the judge. Society does judge this behavior. No one is controlling anyone- that is libertarian bullshit.
And your last three paragraphs are over the top BS all about your perceived victimhood. Boo fucking hoo. You still don't get a pass using racial slurs at DU (and not because of me- but because the group rejects your ideas on the matter) and most of us prefer it that way. Take it up with Skinner if you feel this is an huge infringement of your freedumb.
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The way the post reads (to me) is that the person would be OK with it, IF they
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#28
She seems to be referring to anyone who objects to her using a misogynist slur.
redqueen
Jan 2014
#36
agreed. as far as you go with it, redqueen. I take it a step farther and wonder about
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#39
in the kindest way possible, I give the poster the benefit of doubt as to misunderstanding
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#46
For all you know someone was standing off camera with a gun pointed to the woman's head.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#95
so, you'll be calling African Americans n****rs soon, according to your line of thinking?
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#47
your incredibly transparent, disingenuous and insincere lines of questions….
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#77
why don't you use racial slurs if some African Americans do, and that is your benchmark?
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#111
Okay, you are unable to answer the question, and I have better things to do. Bye now.
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#119
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure that's what bettyellen was saying.
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#208
i never said any of that. you took issue to people having a problem with the usage of b*tch here….
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#225
I didn't take any issue; I asked a question. And you still haven't answered it...
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#229
Usage of word "in group" is explained well here- but basically -AS A SLUR- it is not good practice,
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#233
Well, I am sure some authority will tell others what they can use shortly
The Straight Story
Jan 2014
#231
Usage of word "in group" is explained well here- but basically -AS A SLUR- it is not good practice,
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#232
So it has uses other than as a slur? And again - what is 'in group' in a liberal group?
The Straight Story
Jan 2014
#234
the "in group" may use it as a term of affection within that group. so yes- african americans can
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#235
it's about USAGE. words are used in different ways…. since you claim this is a new concept to you,
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#238
And again I have to say that you know there's a difference between an in-group use of a slur.
KitSileya
Jan 2014
#239
thank you Kit- I don't know where this idea of a group of judges came from, unless it is resentment!
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#248
it is usage as a slur that is not okay. How many times do you need that explained?
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#254
I'm not taking your stupid quiz, LOL. Never said anyone can use slurs- what part of "ingroup usage"
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#271
no, it is definitely and transparently angling for permission to use slurs.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#273
"Some folks think the use of n****r by white men, at all, is wrong - but not by African
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#275
such an impassioned plea for permission to use vile racial slurs without being judged for it….
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#281
So sad to see you preaching the same hate filled notions about "uppity" people causing racial strife
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#290
So, in other words, the best you have is trying to insult. As usual
The Straight Story
Jan 2014
#279
i just posted you a video of someone making identical arguments to your own….
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#280
People will fear using the word "n*****r" - and you don't think that is a GOOD thing? Noted.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#293
I imagine there are many people who believe that feminism is simply one block of demographic...
LanternWaste
Jan 2014
#68
It is OT shit stirring of the lowest order. Looking for loopholes so white men can get their
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#249
Intent. Some people claim they cannot ever discern intent, LOL. They blather on and on and on…..
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#291
oh the RW "PC" meme + "you know you love it, b*tches" all in one post. Lovely.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#26
and that three DUers do not recognize it therefore, condone it. Much education is needed.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#30
I wonder how many wars it took over the word 'retarded' before people stopped thinking it was ok.
redqueen
Jan 2014
#176
Well that's sad that juries are leaving it, but sadder still, it is not surprising.
redqueen
Jan 2014
#188
No need to rewrite it. It is already there. That you choose to willfully misunderstand it is indeed
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#41
Yes, over time words can evolve, sometimes to end up meaning the exact opposite.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#70
I still chuckle when I remember the time in Meta when Skinner suggested that female DUers
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#99
Ewwww, why would Skinner suggest we PM people who offend us, instead of discussing it openly?
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#105
Honestly, bettyellen, if you ask me, I find the whole notion of DU3 ... bizarre. As usual
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#108
too bad for you, words have actual meanings. so take it how you want to, and it still means
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#132
Indeed, it's not acceptable for people to compare women to animals, for not agreeing with them
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2014
#93
not a question. A statement that certain things ought to be recognized as unacceptable on DU.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2014
#110
Yes, I agree. I think there are a couple of overdue apologies, there.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2014
#127
just for YOU because you are so very speical to me. I will address one LAST time the post you linked
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#133
That was a sweet thread (except for the usual knee-jerk, holier-than-thou crap).
polly7
Jan 2014
#211
GMTA .... oh lordie .... LMAO over here ... because that was my first thought as well.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#83
twit is genderless, meaning not rooted in anything gendered. b*tch is a slur used against women.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#54
then prove it- find any ONE scholar or ONE blog claiming twit is a sexist term. One.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#100
You think using 'b*tch' as an insult is fine, but 'twit' is a misogynist slur?
redqueen
Jan 2014
#55
She's using a bigoted slur and getting called on it. That is not being "bullied".
redqueen
Jan 2014
#179
it's "a big turn off" to hear sexist slurs are not okay? Cry me a river, LOL.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#226
the * doesn't get you off the hook for slurring women with that word. your intent is clear.
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#23
tossing out slurs is problematic on a progressive board, so "expressing opinions" using slurs
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#37
Twits is a genderless insult, so….no, it is not inherently misogynistic. HTH!
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#56
i have seen just as many men called twits, maybe more so. pls find cites where it is considered a
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#65
You'll appreciate the irony of the use of the filthiest word I've ever heard to describe a woman
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#198
I hadn't seen it. And it's beyond disgusting. But I'm not sure that the OP should delete it.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#7
I don't disagree but there's a long thread with this photo and I don't see the need
cali
Jan 2014
#9
Perhaps the OP should insert an "offensively racist photo" warning in the subject line
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#10
Due to ignore lists some people won't see the other post (or this one)
The Straight Story
Jan 2014
#51
Porn is encroaching into other forms of media. Racism has been deemed acceptable in porn.
redqueen
Jan 2014
#11
I'd be pretty upset, too, to see that it had been used in a way that portrayed the photo
polly7
Jan 2014
#103
It's a recreation of original work by Allen Jones. The original subjects were white women and it
seaglass
Jan 2014
#90
Yeah thank goodness for google and wiki - I wonder what just dropped out of my brain because I
seaglass
Jan 2014
#116
the artist not only employed racism. The sexism is very evident, too. --
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#122
When an artist creates a controversial work, they are responsible for its reception.
riqster
Jan 2014
#145
And when the artist fails to explain, then they must accept what verbal responses they receive.
riqster
Jan 2014
#150
The artist was not the one saying it was misunderstood and taken out of context. The artist has not
seaglass
Jan 2014
#175
Looks like no one wants to take responsibility for this one. Next thing you know she'll
seaglass
Jan 2014
#197
Projection only works if there is a suitable reflective surface for the projector.
riqster
Jan 2014
#292