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JoePhilly

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40. DU has a "blame Democrats first" contingent.

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:07 AM

Jan 2014

No matter what the situation, in their mind, the Democrats are at fault.

And you are correct ... we should ALL be attacking Christie.

What we should be seeing discussed in the media is exactly what I described.

Q: "Why did so many Democratic mayors endorse Christie?"
A: "Because they KNEW he'd seek retribution on them, and their constituents, if they did not."

The GOP likes to call Obama a "thug" ... but here we see exactly what kind of "thug" Christie actually is.

End of story.

Its a narrative that we should be driving.

And what is DU's combustible hair club doing ... attacking the Democrats.

And they are confused as to why they can't make better progress in getting their preferred candidates elected. Its because they can't see the forest for the trees.

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To all the New Jersey Democratic Mayors who supported Christie over Buono . . . [View all] markpkessinger Jan 2014 OP

Great point! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #1

Add the Democratic voters Suburban Warrior Jan 2014 #2

They were trying to avoid this exact kind of attack by Christie on their JoePhilly Jan 2014 #3

It never pays to appease a bully n/t markpkessinger Jan 2014 #5

Worked fine for those who did not cross Christie. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #6

constituents also suffer when republicans are in office period. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #10

I don't care whether you sympothize with them or not. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #25

Buono is on Chris Hayes NOW saying what I've been telling you. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #68

The Dems have denied they voted out of fear, they still support him they say and believe what sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #91

So now you are a party loyalist? JoePhilly Jan 2014 #92

Christie is not the mayor, he is the Governor. What do you mean 'loyalist'. Show me where sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #93

You just said those mayors should have put party first. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #95

I will repeat what I said, what I have always said and what I will continue to say sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #98

Wow ... outstanding purity rant. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #102

You're backing off your false claim now. Great, mission accomplished. Now let's get sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #107

I made no false claims. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #109

The Dem Mayors are contradicting you. Buono told us what SHE WAS TOLD in order to try sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #111

New Jersey Democrats Who Endorsed Christie Stand By Their Man smokey nj Jan 2014 #101

Either they are lying or Buono is. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #103

So they're double-dose cowards. The bully beat them into submission and now that the bully's smokey nj Jan 2014 #105

That sounds about right. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #108

Wait, supposedly they DID make that claim, and seemed to think the opposite, that it would sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #112

They told Buono, in private. She said so. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #113

Why did they feel the need to explain to THEIR candidate why they could not sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #117

Ah, so they were not afraid that Christie might block their bridges, JoePhilly Jan 2014 #122

So you think that behavior is something in which its practitioners should take pride? smokey nj Jan 2014 #114

I did not say anyone should be proud of these mayors. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #115

You've been defending them and justifying their behavior to the point that you look ridiculous. smokey nj Jan 2014 #116

You just called Buono a liar. That's really pathetic. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #119

I did no such thing. smokey nj Jan 2014 #120

Can dish it out but can't take it I see. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #121

I think focusing on cowardly and corrupt politicians and removing them from office would improve smokey nj Jan 2014 #123

She also said she was unable to get support from the Party financially, and that she was told sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #110

Ok, no. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #65

Buono was on Chris Hayes last night saying exactly what I have said. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #84

Actually, I am in Michigan. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #87

And you don't know anything about NJ politics. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #96

Appeasing a bully, much like negotiating with hostage-takers . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #130

You're excusing Dem Politicians and Voters helping to elect a Republican? Then we won't be sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #22

Ooh, good catch! Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #28

Yea, except that I didn't excuse them. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #49

Yes you did Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #51

Na, I didn't. If you want to change a situation ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #52

It's getting worse frankly. WE KNEW what Christie was capable of, to begin with. And we were TOLD sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #62

Christie was going to WIN. You were never going to stop that. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #63

Oh, the old Third Way "I have to support them because they're going to win anyway" Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #78

Did you see Buono on Chris Hayes tonight. She said what I've been saying. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #85

What about the alternative: "We're not going to endorse him because Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #124

I don't know what you've been reading, BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #106

You've got it. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #118

I'm just tired of the circular firing squad that happens here on DU from time to time. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #125

I did not excuse them, I simply explained their behavior. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #29

Republicans are attacked constantly on the DU Fumesucker Jan 2014 #37

I did not say Repiblicans are NEVER attacked on DU. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #41

If you're cool with Democratic politicians endorsing Republicans Fumesucker Jan 2014 #45

I did not say I was "cool with it". JoePhilly Jan 2014 #48

Buono is on Chris Hayes NOW saying what I've been telling you. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #69

Buono COULD have been Gov. of Blue State NJ had her party not endorsed the Republican. It's not sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #71

You should watch her segment on the show. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #72

Republicans are not criticized at nearly the frequency as Democrats here. joshcryer Jan 2014 #74

We all see what we expect to see or what we want to see, don't we? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #76

Sure, it happens. joshcryer Jan 2014 #77

Please proceed, governor Fumesucker Jan 2014 #80

Oh, I was here and I'd seen it, too, joshcryer. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #104

I will remember it too. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #67

Did you see Buono on Chris Hayes tonight. She said what I've been saying. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #70

I have it on the TIVO ready to go for this AM. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #81

Neither she, nor any of the Dem mayors frmo NJ, have been asked that question. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #83

Spot on sabrina. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #89

Ask Neville Chamberlain how well appeasement worked out. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #86

They just denied that so we can drop that excuse. They stated that they voted for him sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #88

And Buono said the opposite last night. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #90

She said a lot more than that. And THAT is what she was told by the Party, did you sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #94

Yes, it is shameful ... its also a fact. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #97

So you are saying that the Democrats are lying. And you think it's better to have sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #100

I Don't Want To Defend Them But.... Laxman Jan 2014 #4

Ding ding ding!!! JoePhilly Jan 2014 #7

Times 1000 JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #33

DU has a "blame Democrats first" contingent. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #40

I'm going to tweet JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #42

Please proceed ... and I mean that in a good way ;-) JoePhilly Jan 2014 #44

Done! n/t JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #47

Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #128

Well said. smokey nj Jan 2014 #131

<Sigh> markpkessinger Jan 2014 #133

It is, indeed. smokey nj Jan 2014 #136

OK, so after we "call out" the Dems mayors in NJ, what do you want JoePhilly Jan 2014 #134

You're Correct-Partly... Laxman Jan 2014 #135

didn't the Fort Lee mayor say something about investigating where the Sandy money went CatWoman Jan 2014 #9

That would be interesting.... giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #27

Don't Count on The NJ Attorney General's Office... Laxman Jan 2014 #31

True that they are part of his posse, giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #35

well, since this directly impacted interstate commerce, the fed certainly has an interest 0rganism Jan 2014 #64

+1. n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #18

And yet, we have learned since then, that many of the victims of Sandy were very angry at sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #75

EVERYONE of them MUST face a primary challenge! Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #8

Not gonna happen here JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #34

Losers, every last one of them. nt Zorra Jan 2014 #11

How's that Christie endorsement working out for you? yellowcanine Jan 2014 #12

To all the New Jersey Democratic Mayors who supported Buono over Christie... rocktivity Jan 2014 #13

That's what I'd like to see -- intimidated Dems coming forward. n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #17

That is exactly the response that extortion victims should take Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #79

GREAT POINT !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #14

Proud has nothing to do with this. It's politics. Some foolishly think that all Democrats rhett o rick Jan 2014 #15

I wonder what kind of threats and intimidation they were exposed to? pnwmom Jan 2014 #16

Egg on their faces! Shame, shame on them! nt Firebrand Gary Jan 2014 #19

They sure acted like a bunch of scaredy cats jsr Jan 2014 #20

I will tell them to go f**k themselves, and join another party, we don't need them lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #21

A D is a D. We shouldn't bash our own. ScottyEss Jan 2014 #23

Who's "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket? Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #24

No mouse, more likely a rat. ScottyEss Jan 2014 #53

Enjoy your stay. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #55

I'm sure it will be fun but short-lived ScottyEss Jan 2014 #56

Glad to see someone that ha the strength of his convictions. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #57

I don't fully understand. ScottyEss Jan 2014 #58

Mayor Mark Sokolich is awesome.. I would add Mayor Steven Fulop Cha Jan 2014 #82

And D politicians definitely shouldn't endorse Republicans Fumesucker Jan 2014 #46

What about bipartisanship? ScottyEss Jan 2014 #54

What about it? markpkessinger Jan 2014 #129

Are you seriously suggesting Democrats should abide by Reagan's "11th Commandment?" markpkessinger Jan 2014 #132

Obvious that they all were fearful of retaliations beachbum bob Jan 2014 #26

Hopefully some of them will grow a spine! B Calm Jan 2014 #30

Well now that the cork is out of the bottle malaise Jan 2014 #32

Very Little Has Been Spent This Far Laxman Jan 2014 #38

Who was promised what? malaise Jan 2014 #39

Yes it Is. A little complicated but... Laxman Jan 2014 #43

How you enjoyin' those kneecaps? Heh? Heh? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #36

It's time for ProSense Jan 2014 #50

Personally I think their names should be posted so we can help vote them out next election LynneSin Jan 2014 #59

Also the DNC which left Buono hanging. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #60

Some liked the guy, others may have been afraid of the playground bully. Beacool Jan 2014 #61

Killing the tunnel should have killed off Christie politically imo, indepat Jan 2014 #66

kick CreekDog Jan 2014 #73

Corrupt Dems, in the words of Al Pacino in "Scent of a Woman"------- winstars Jan 2014 #99

a fucking men DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #126

K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #127