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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
80. You claim to be about science
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jan 2014

but use an argument like that? There are many other factors, your example is in no way a legitimate way to evaluate any possible dangers of thimerosol, you would need to examine all factors and tease out the effects specific to thimerosal. Not trying to be rude, but that seems pretty obvious.

I don't claim to know if thimerosol is potentially harmful though I suspect that it way well be. I understand the interest society has in people getting vaccinated, but I don't think we should ignore or gloss over potential risks to achieve that end, especially when it's about something as needless as a preservative containing heavy metal.

Thanks for reminding me about mercurochrome, somehow I hadn't even realized what it was. When I was a child my parents would fairly often apply it to our wounds.

Several in my family (including myself) have some kind of issues that appear to be (but may not be) autism-spectrum type things, fairly minor so we present as more or less "normal" but have real life issues from it, and it is for this reason that I pay some attention to these kind of issues, it might be more important to us than to others, honestly I don't know but caution seems wise.

It's sad that Jenny and that bogus doctor got themselves positioned as leading activists on these issues, they did us all a disservice. That doesn't mean we know the full story about such things, though, and should not be used to close the book on it.

if you don't use that as a book title, I will NightWatcher Jan 2014 #1
+1 hibbing Jan 2014 #56
Well put, my dear Will, and AMEN. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2014 #2
This is great MattBaggins Jan 2014 #3
The article is from 2010. Which is she saying in 2014? JHB Jan 2014 #4
"I was wrong: it wasn't vaccines...it was chemtrails!" Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #13
Chemtrails are just one of the many means the Illuminati use to control us. progressoid Jan 2014 #23
And don't forget the smart meters! winter is coming Jan 2014 #97
Or propaganda. Octafish Jan 2014 #117
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #119
Her son was misdiagnosed and she realized the doctors were full of shit. bananas Jan 2014 #102
"...a strong woman who didn't fall for the bullshit..." TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #113
+1... SidDithers Jan 2014 #115
So the brainless idiot didn't know what she was talking about. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #5
“I’ll continue to be the voice” of (autism). Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #6
Excellent. And now the herd immunity to whooping cough is compromised and children are dying Squinch Jan 2014 #7
measles too mnmoderatedem Jan 2014 #15
imagine that? gopiscrap Jan 2014 #8
And even THEN think for yourself! randome Jan 2014 #9
Agreed! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #12
I agreet that you shouldn't take medical advice from people not in the medical community gollygee Jan 2014 #10
Anti-vaxers don't care... They will continue to believe stupid Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #11
I'm afraid that's probably true gollygee Jan 2014 #14
incubated in eggs....what does she have against eggs? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #78
Don't cheer too quickly Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #16
so you want to create a wave of infectious disease despite only 0.5% of sheep tested having this Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #20
Try reading more carefully - Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #29
adjuvants are known issues laundry_queen Jan 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #47
noted. I will delete Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #49
Thanks for posting this. onlyadream Jan 2014 #43
which is completely different than typical vaccines Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #44
Because my daughter has two autoimmune disorders Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #46
Is it too late to get HPV vaccine once a young woman is sexually active? liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #85
You'd need to check with her doctor. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #87
My doctor does not carry the HPV vaccine Redford Jan 2014 #95
Even the medical community isn't 100% on board with this one. onlyadream Jan 2014 #108
Reminds me of when they lost my shot record in the army. wercal Jan 2014 #103
. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #106
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #17
wow. an idiotic conservative shows their face to bray about the evils of vaccines Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #19
She's history! In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #21
lol! HappyMe Jan 2014 #35
That MIRT message! LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #50
Yeah, that too. HappyMe Jan 2014 #51
also don't take medical advice from actors who are barking lunatics Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #18
Nonsense. The autism part of her sons condition was cured away by cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #24
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #25
Vaccines don't cause autism, but Blanks Jan 2014 #26
Thimerosal is in one (1) specific flu vaccine. WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #27
It was more widespread in the past. Blanks Jan 2014 #39
Do you understand what 'non-trace' amount means? idwiyo Jan 2014 #53
It's not a particularly difficult concept. What's your point? Blanks Jan 2014 #59
If you understand what it means you wouldn't be posting what you do. idwiyo Jan 2014 #60
Are you suggesting that there are 'non-trace' amounts of mercury in the preservative? Blanks Jan 2014 #62
According to your own quote, in US some vaccines contain non-trace ammount of thiomersal. idwiyo Jan 2014 #107
I looked for a definition of 'non-trace' amounts... Blanks Jan 2014 #111
The vaccines you were talking about contain non-trace ammount of thiomersal. idwiyo Jan 2014 #120
And only in one form of it. (The multi-dose vial) AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #40
So do amalgam dental fillings. So did saline for contacts and eye drops. Thor_MN Jan 2014 #61
Coal fired plants spew mercury... Blanks Jan 2014 #68
No. No links between trace amounts of thimerisol and all the bullshit some attribute to it. Thor_MN Jan 2014 #82
The fact that there is more mercury in tuna hardly makes it ok... Blanks Jan 2014 #88
I didn't say that now did I? Thor_MN Jan 2014 #91
Did you miss the excerpt? Blanks Jan 2014 #92
Did you even read what I posted? Thor_MN Jan 2014 #94
I apologize. Blanks Jan 2014 #112
No problem, I used to run tests for Mercury at the ppb level, back in the day. Thor_MN Jan 2014 #114
I guess the thing that's odd to me about the preservative... Blanks Jan 2014 #118
Interesting. Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #100
Thanks for this post dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #65
Despite two claims to the contrary on this thread... Blanks Jan 2014 #69
Then how does one explain autism rates increasing after it's use was largely eliminated? Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #70
Just because it may have been a contributor... Blanks Jan 2014 #75
That is a logical fallacy known as "moving the goalposts". Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #77
I haven't convinced myself its mercury. Blanks Jan 2014 #86
You claim to be about science dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #80
No one is "glossing over" potential risks. In fact, as a precautionary measure, thimerosal... Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #89
Actually it is glossing over dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #90
I'm not advocating any mercury theory... wercal Jan 2014 #104
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #28
Hey girl. Agschmid Jan 2014 #30
Like my button? Agschmid Jan 2014 #31
You do I know it. Agschmid Jan 2014 #32
oh. you're back? Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #33
Inb4 the "Message Removed"...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #34
Jenny McCarthy Body Count... SidDithers Jan 2014 #36
+1 idwiyo Jan 2014 #54
This. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2014 #63
+1 octoberlib Jan 2014 #109
That poor kid. (her son). I can't imagine having a mom like that. uppityperson Jan 2014 #37
"A menace to public health" wryter2000 Jan 2014 #38
Well, she is. HappyMe Jan 2014 #41
Does that mean he isn't an Indigo Child anymore either? JoeyT Jan 2014 #45
If the vaccine damages your kid SCVDem Jan 2014 #48
No he has a crazy mom. eom R Merm Jan 2014 #52
Thanks! I didn't know her son didn't have autism after all. herding cats Jan 2014 #55
Saw her on TV New Year's Eve... Moostache Jan 2014 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #58
I saw some interviews in a documentary about this issue. She was embarrassingly moronic. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #64
Why is it hilarious that the boy's doctors gave a false diagnosis? n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #67
hilarious. In a sickening kind of way. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #71
The syndrome they now say he has is similar to autism in many ways pnwmom Jan 2014 #73
But it also means that autism SYMPTOMS -- not actual autism -- pnwmom Jan 2014 #66
So America takes advice from Phil Robertson and Playboy models while ignoring science. Lint Head Jan 2014 #72
Why throw in the reference to her posing for Playboy? redqueen Jan 2014 #74
She launched her career fron Playboy....and continues to work for them. Why shouldn't msanthrope Jan 2014 #84
Kind of sad, all this time he needed an EEG and anti-epileptics... Barack_America Jan 2014 #76
Who would have guessed...? mr blur Jan 2014 #79
I remember when my son was first diagnosed with autism. I did lot of research. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #81
Yep. It's like being kicked in the gut. I almost fainted when I got the news Butterbean Jan 2014 #93
Science - it's a good thing. K&R nt TBF Jan 2014 #83
While misguided, I don't blame OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #96
Welcome to the internet age. Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #98
She's an airhead and only famous because of her body davidpdx Jan 2014 #99
Ooops. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #101
Or from putative Indigo children's mothers. longship Jan 2014 #105
Amazing how many people won't even get a common flu shot because B Calm Jan 2014 #110
Even if the kid had autism, vaccines still never gave him autism. Iggo Jan 2014 #116
Does this mean it's okay for me to retroactively dick-punch every scowling, Aristus Jan 2014 #121
Apparently the dipshittery comes from hollywoodlife - here's what Jenny McCarthy says.... Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2014 #122
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