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In reply to the discussion: Why "fun feminism" should be consigned to the rubbish bin [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)126. "...is the struggle for equal rights between men and women. Not for men. Men already have more..."
Then it's not about equality, but about advocacy.
What does feminism propose to do about the truth that women are only 8% of workplace fatalities? That women are only 10% of those incarcerated? That girls are only 40% of high school dropouts? That women are 0% of the people required to register for the draft?
Equality is a math expression, but it really isn't that hard. No one should take seriously discussion of "equality", when what is really meant is "more for me".
BTW, I think we should agree on some definitions to words like "equality", "rights" and "oppression".
Specifically, which rights do women lack?
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It's shame that you can't cross link a post to a specific group though.
Old and In the Way
Mar 2012
#133
I don't get that. There are lots of men that are far more supportive of feminist ideals then some
Jennicut
Mar 2012
#7
my husband was an unwavering supporter of Hillary Clinton in 08. He persuaded me that I
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#101
I would expand on that... the patriarchal system makes finding a mate even harder!
tech_smythe
Mar 2012
#244
I don't think you could transplant today's 3rd wavers into the culture 30-40 years ago
Old and In the Way
Mar 2012
#97
You may be Old and In the Way but I'm pretty sure you're not old enough to remember the 1st wavers
Gormy Cuss
Mar 2012
#134
Actually, back in the late 60's, I was very focused on wave theories.
Old and In the Way
Mar 2012
#144
You mean the sort of angry militancy that tells hetero women they can't be feminists if they're
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2012
#235
i had to go back and read the article, because i did not hear her say any of that.
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#17
Forget interpretation, did you find the overall tone to be positive and welcoming?
Ruby the Liberal
Mar 2012
#31
traditional views of women and feminists themselves... much softer, appealing yet powerful force.
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#131
What? Blacks get to express hatred of white oppression and still get good corporate jobs? Really?
saras
Mar 2012
#216
Radical feminists locate the root cause of women's oppression in patriarchal gender relations
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#29
So you feel that the article, being not radical, represents mainstream acceptable 2012 feminism?
Ruby the Liberal
Mar 2012
#34
There is - first of all, look at the undeniable fact that women are not paid equal to men.
chrisa
Mar 2012
#197
"...is the struggle for equal rights between men and women. Not for men. Men already have more..."
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2012
#126
we are multi task oriented and falls under human rights and equality. i dont think it is tough
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#128
It wasn't my intent to criticize and yes. You ARE the one who speaks up.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2012
#166
"Consistent" I think this word means something other than what you think it means.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2012
#178
I was replying to your response to me, where I was speaking originally of this quote:
boston bean
Mar 2012
#83
I wrote "Replace it with Equality" - as in replace the patriarchy with Equality, not a Matriarchy..
boston bean
Mar 2012
#85
Last I heard, the generally used definition of feminism was "equality for women".
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2012
#122
It is amazing that almost every post I click on has a reply from you. You are crazy great.
HangOnKids
Mar 2012
#102
No, it isn't a promotion of 2nd wave feminism. It's a promotion of Bindel's curious and twisted take
Gormy Cuss
Mar 2012
#153
The more I see, the more I'm convinced it's religious fundamentalism oozing out in a different form.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2012
#236
Yep. Spot on. "Puritanism is the nagging feeling that someone, somewhere, might be happy"
Taverner
Mar 2012
#157
It started with Girl Power and has sunk into mindless hedonism. Why has sexual equality backfired?
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#160
Isn't calling a woman or group of women "hedonist" a form of an attempt at slut-shaming?
stevenleser
Mar 2012
#201
The thing is, have 50 and 60-somethings EVER wrote about 20something trends and approved?
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2012
#266
It's posts like this that make visiting DU every day a very worthy experience!
bullwinkle428
Mar 2012
#176
It's hard to take anything she says seriously knowing her bigotry toward Transgendered people
stevenleser
Mar 2012
#203
maybe it is not about her believing that it is a reality. maybe it is making a point.
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#264
i get the concept. i played it, too. i think we clearly show an example how the power was not
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#167
I'm afraid that these examples are the end results of the oversexualization of our kids
librechik
Mar 2012
#187
i appreciate you taking account past posts. i value when a poster is able to do that
seabeyond
Mar 2012
#260
Article starts with a failed premise: "If your brand of feminism seems good to men, its bad"
stevenleser
Mar 2012
#195
the author has a few good points but its clouded by her desire to denigrate women
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2012
#230
The "radical" feminism I encountered on DU has made me lose a lot of sympathy for feminists...
DutchLiberal
Mar 2012
#237
The author of the posted article is a hater of transsexual people and in general a self
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2012
#241
NEWS FLASH: A 180-degree total inversion of humankind will never, ever happen.
dogknob
Mar 2012
#258