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Ranchemp.

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123. Because freedom of speech has absolutely nothing to do with

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:52 PM

Dec 2013

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denying jobs or housing based on ethenticity. It is the right to freely express your views without fear of govt. reprisals, which you have advocated.

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French star sparks row with 'Nazi-style' salute [View all] The Straight Story Dec 2013 OP

Pop concert in Washington dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #1

They're all holding smartphones… nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #2

You're beyond goddamned ridiculous at this point. nt Codeine Dec 2013 #55

Which doesn't change the fact dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #66

What???????????? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #67

Don't try and tell me they were all holding 'phones dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #71

Really? You call those Neo Nazi salutes? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #75

I don't regard the subject of the OP being so either. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #78

Fair point, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #79

Read the article. Iggo Dec 2013 #145

That's because you don't know anything about "la quenelle" or the people Codeine Dec 2013 #98

If you read the article, kiva Dec 2013 #144

At least read elsewhere too on the subject. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #148

Dumbs#*t. jessie04 Dec 2013 #3

What the hell is this: a la izquierda Dec 2013 #93

JihadWatch Jessie is a proponent of the "Eurabia" horseshit Scootaloo Dec 2013 #103

Oh FFS. a la izquierda Dec 2013 #104

Am I missing something? KansDem Dec 2013 #4

It is a modified Nazi saluted adopted by neo-Nazis across Europe hack89 Dec 2013 #6

Thanks for the explanation KansDem Dec 2013 #8

Europe has black neo-Nazis? El_Johns Dec 2013 #113

Anti-semitism is color blind. nt hack89 Dec 2013 #138

Nazi ideology is not limited to anti-semitism. El_Johns Dec 2013 #139

It is widely viewed as anti-semitic hack89 Dec 2013 #140

I had to laugh... KansDem Dec 2013 #142

thank you ... I had no idea n/t etherealtruth Dec 2013 #143

Does not the bruddah realize that Adolph would send him to camp first? MADem Dec 2013 #53

+1 treestar Dec 2013 #127

As far as the U.S. goes Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #5

As a Jew I strongly oppose that idea anti partisan Dec 2013 #7

Pronouncements of racism Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #9

I know where you're coming from but I'm going to have to strongly disagree (nt) anti partisan Dec 2013 #10

Fair enough Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #13

No. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #11

There's also a certain mentality among anti-Semites... anti partisan Dec 2013 #12

I fully agree, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #14

It is Utopian of you Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #16

There's no reason why hate speech and murder should be paralleled anti partisan Dec 2013 #17

It's a better path to take than yours. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #19

Is not. nt Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #21

So you would ban "hate speech", which could be interpreted by whatever Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #22

You would give preference Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #25

I give preference to the right of anyone to say what they want, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #28

Valid point Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #32

It's not "preference"--and they'd know it when their bullshit was answered by excoriation in the MADem Dec 2013 #58

HaHa! Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #63

Hate speech in the U.S. has been around since the creation of the union, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #64

There's two sides to every "slope" Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #18

Not yours!!!!! Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #20

No, not mine. Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #26

And there it is, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #29

To be fair Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #30

To be fair, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #31

Well yea but Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #33

And only a little would lead to a little bit more Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #35

Look Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #37

Who gives a damn what the Europeans think? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #39

Wtf is "white-thrashing"? Packerowner740 Dec 2013 #97

It was a joke Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #99

Yes but it's not that reliable a solution Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #40

And we're not Nazi Germany Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #42

Yes but only by sheer luck Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #43

And for a really good cause. nt Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #34

That would certainly put an end ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2013 #15

Thankfully we have the 1st Amendment LittleBlue Dec 2013 #23

+1000. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #24

Suit yourself Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #27

There are laws agains "hate crimes" and discrimination in public venues is "illegal" mountain grammy Dec 2013 #36

"The United States fought a war to prevent them from doing it. " Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #38

Oh, I've said that so many times.. but then I think of the lives of African Americans mountain grammy Dec 2013 #46

Yes, there are laws against hate crimes and discrimination, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #41

So what, they are just talking treestar Dec 2013 #44

Hitler was just talking. nt Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #45

Germany didn't have the protection of a BoR then, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #47

Not comparing it to Nazi Germany but Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #49

Ok, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #51

And nobody had to listen treestar Dec 2013 #57

Nope. Iggo Dec 2013 #50

It's not like racist speech Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #54

What.....what the fuck? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #69

Not at all Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #72

Taking advantage of the 1A? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #77

At least three problems with this. Captain Stern Dec 2013 #52

I will grant you #1 Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #59

Find a new country.......or else what? Captain Stern Dec 2013 #61

And if they don't find a new country in the allotted time? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #62

In that case, Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #68

Suppose the "applicant" refuses to bow down to the govt.? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #74

Well, of course, the constitution Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #81

What other thoughtcrimes are eligible for this treatment? tritsofme Dec 2013 #83

You can think want you want Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #84

But if you're in power I better not state it publicly tritsofme Dec 2013 #85

Antithetical to all traditions of American self government. Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #87

Racism is sick, no one here is denying that, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #89

Stopping racists Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #90

You better believe that I'm sure of that. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #94

Obviously freedom is better. You have a cowardly mindset. tritsofme Dec 2013 #95

Muderers are opponents too Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #96

Yes, I think words are infinitely different than killing someone. tritsofme Dec 2013 #100

Do you not see the fundamental difference Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #101

Under the law there is no difference. tritsofme Dec 2013 #105

So do I. But I will defend to the death his right to say it. tritsofme Dec 2013 #92

You're someone who doesn't understand our Constitution. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #86

And how many times do you think the US could get away with this "visa" trick Packerowner740 Dec 2013 #102

You can't have both sides of the argument Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #107

I should have put "undesireables" in quotations, that is what you are labeling them Packerowner740 Dec 2013 #110

As I initially alluded Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #114

Someone else used to move "undesirables" out of the way, based on their beliefs n/t arcane1 Dec 2013 #112

It's really not based on their beliefs Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #115

It is based on their beliefs. arcane1 Dec 2013 #116

Is it possible I hate racism too much? Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #117

Replace "racism" with "liberalism" tritsofme Dec 2013 #118

Well, I accept DU's rebuke Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #120

Because freedom of speech has absolutely nothing to do with Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #123

What you seem to hate is the freedom of speech that Americans enjoy, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #121

Wow, you're really pissed at me Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #125

What I'm pissed at is the fact that you don't seem to realize that what you Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #126

Yea, but to resign me to the Freepers? Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #128

Because you are proposing what freepers would like to do to us. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #130

Well for one Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #133

Repubs have made it very clear what they would like to do Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #137

"Well, of course, the constitution would have to be amended." cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #149

You are an authoritarian. tritsofme Dec 2013 #76

No I'm not Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #82

If you don't think you are espousing classic authoritarian tritsofme Dec 2013 #88

And in the wrong place. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #91

Indeed, it's the most absurd series of posts I've seen on DU in a long time. arcane1 Dec 2013 #109

No other country is bound to take these racists treestar Dec 2013 #132

Where would they be wanted? Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #135

The word used in the first post was treestar Dec 2013 #131

Yeah, no. But thanks for playing. nt Codeine Dec 2013 #56

"Exported?" To where would you export them? MADem Dec 2013 #60

I'm sorry, I meant "deported" Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #65

So, I'll ask again, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #70

I answered Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #73

You're generating alot of heat because you're advocating Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #80

Yea, I'm a right wing ideologue Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #108

Send them WHERE, exactly, is the question you are being asked. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #106

I've answered this about twice but Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #111

What other countries are going to take our "undesireables"? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #119

Seriously, that last is quite possible Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #122

Well, then I would suggest that you take an online civics course, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #124

lol...nazis. Iggo Dec 2013 #48

Quasi-Nazi salute popular in France Mosby Dec 2013 #129

Photos of the quenelle Mosby Dec 2013 #136

It's good to see anti-semitism is a thing of past. jessie04 Dec 2013 #141

Now that I see context to it - yeah, that looks like a Nazi salute he's doing. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #146

Thanks for the background - that makes the intent behind it clear muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #150

Anelka Is Black Dirty Socialist Dec 2013 #134

Hey I thought only white people could be racist. Kurska Dec 2013 #147

Now Tony Parker...... Tanuki Dec 2013 #151