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Vashta Nerada

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157. Pope Benedict said the same damn thing.

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 03:28 PM

Nov 2013

On New Year's Day, 2013:
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/01-4

Wrote a book about being anti-capitalist:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Crisis-Global-Capitalism-Encyclical-ebook/dp/B0068M97EE

He also spoke out against Capitalism in 2007:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/14/world/americas/14pope.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Why no love for Ratz? He held the same views as Francis on Capitalism, homosexuals, women, and access to contraception. He just did it wearing fabulous shoes.

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Pope Francis is naming names [View all] Enrique Nov 2013 OP

k&r.... spanone Nov 2013 #1

But those who VOTE for republicans are too stupid to get it. loudsue Nov 2013 #2

K & R Oldtimeralso Nov 2013 #8

But it's the POPE. I'm not a Catholic, but the media reports what the Pope says mountain grammy Nov 2013 #9

examundo! n/t geardaddy Nov 2013 #22

Unfortunately, if certain people, and corporations and media, who will remain nameless, pangaia Nov 2013 #48

He's impossible to ignore. AlbertCat Nov 2013 #68

So true, so true, but I do think he's impossible to ignore. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #82

Mountain Grammy, that's what a few of us here have been trying to get across... Hekate Nov 2013 #91

They understand the fires of hell pscot Nov 2013 #25

Those people.. sendero Nov 2013 #101

But if religious folk could be convinced pscot Nov 2013 #122

That is actually pretty much the anti slavery abolitionist argument The Green Manalishi Nov 2013 #145

I'm not a moralist per se pscot Nov 2013 #147

Oh, They Get It erpowers Nov 2013 #42

I doubt it. But other things he has said I am sure have set her undies on fire. pangaia Nov 2013 #49

I'll believe in the Virgin Birth ... Quasimodem Nov 2013 #140

Our entire government worships Reaganomics, not just republicans. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #79

They "get it" when... IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #88

K&R sheshe2 Nov 2013 #3

Well Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #4

I am almost tempted to become religious and adopt Catholicism as my sect. WowSeriously Nov 2013 #5

Their schools are awesome. Thank you Jesuits! juajen Nov 2013 #77

Indeed they are. WowSeriously Nov 2013 #96

Jesuits. . .ah yes. The Catholic Church's own version of the forced conversion squad Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #97

Unconverted Jews and Moslems NEVER came under the jurisdiction of the Church. happyslug Nov 2013 #146

Attended Jesuit High School - Very Progressive cantbeserious Nov 2013 #100

I'm glad to hear that BainsBane Nov 2013 #6

As much as I hate to say it, patience. pangaia Nov 2013 #51

If he does BainsBane Nov 2013 #52

Wo dong. (I understand- in mandarin.) pangaia Nov 2013 #54

Or Ting da dong........ socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #72

Just Waitin' for Glenn (Mad-as-a-Hatter) Beck to Open His Mouth . . . cer7711 Nov 2013 #7

remember what he said about social justice? Enrique Nov 2013 #12

Oh Yeah! 'Zactly What I Was Refering To cer7711 Nov 2013 #14

ugh.. just plain BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #20

They worship Supply Side Jesus progressoid Nov 2013 #21

I hate to be picky rickyhall Nov 2013 #121

just as the cartoon indicates. Schema Thing Nov 2013 #144

K & R mountain grammy Nov 2013 #10

Next: KICKING ASS and TAKING NAMES! SKITTLES? trof Nov 2013 #11

I love this man! spinbaby Nov 2013 #13

Rush is already calling him a Marxist QuestForSense Nov 2013 #15

Good idea alientaing another voting block, women, minorities, gay persons and now Catholics Sheepshank Nov 2013 #16

I know a couple of women who listen to scumbag obsessively BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #17

Eventually Rush will become leader of the Hate Everyone Club. Quasimodem Nov 2013 #141

Strange, anyone who actually cares about human beings is labled a Marxist, pangaia Nov 2013 #53

Anyone who calls either Pope Francis or Obama a Marxist Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #102

Wait, I thought Obama was a Marxist Nazi??? pangaia Nov 2013 #120

I'm sure you have come across conservatives saying that the Nazis were socialists. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #124

Exactly. pangaia Nov 2013 #126

Welcome to DU, QuestForSense! calimary Nov 2013 #64

Ha Ha ha ha The pope is a marxist??? Vietnameravet Nov 2013 #18

Yay. More love for a homophobic Pope. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #19

Yeah, this is getting insane. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #23

It just boggles my mind that people here actually love this guy. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #27

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #32

A gay person who finds the gushing support for an anti gay bigot on DU disgusting... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #39

+1...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #41

I'm not gay. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #58

Ah, my mistake!!! eqfan592 Nov 2013 #87

+1 joshcryer Nov 2013 #95

People can multi task joeglow3 Nov 2013 #44

Way to belittle bigotry towards gays and women. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #45

Tell that to the billions starving joeglow3 Nov 2013 #47

You realize that's an argument that cuts both ways, right? eqfan592 Nov 2013 #50

I never voiced support for their views on those. joeglow3 Nov 2013 #60

And I never voiced opposition to his support for the poor. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #66

And you do realize that dividing is how we are conquered right? zeemike Nov 2013 #62

Oh what bullshit. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #65

Well have it your way then. zeemike Nov 2013 #67

Help like suing to avoid covering contraception under ACA? Like opposing choice? Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #109

The Pope sued over contraceptives? zeemike Nov 2013 #111

I completely agree. It boggles my mind that the pope can elicit praise, WCLinolVir Nov 2013 #73

It boggles my mind that this Pope Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #112

He doesn't "judge" us because he thinks we have a NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #115

Can you quote him saying that? n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #118

It's part of the Church catechism NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #131

He has said that he fully supports skepticscott Nov 2013 #125

Accusations of purity most often come associated with intolerance of economic feudalism TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #130

There are gay Catholics though treestar Nov 2013 #71

A large part of the clergy are gay and open about it. Cleita Nov 2013 #76

I don't know about open MFrohike Nov 2013 #85

that is simply not true, that a large number of RCC clerics are openly gay. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #106

The Fransican priest to the New York firefighters who died on 9/11 was openly gay. Cleita Nov 2013 #114

Here's another, Father Gary. Cleita Nov 2013 #129

You don't have to, but we are free to like him if we want. I don't give a damn what you liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #81

Well said! (nt) scarletwoman Nov 2013 #83

Obama never said gay marriage was an abomination. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #89

Thank you, liberal_at_heart NBachers Nov 2013 #93

Liberal heads aren't "detonating" either, at least not for the reason you imply. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #105

Who cares about gays though? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #135

You owe it to your daughter to inform yourself about what Francis actually said. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #108

Thank you for making sense. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #132

Yup. Hasn't been a lot to cheer about from the Catholic church in recent decades. Last Stand Nov 2013 #113

Stop making so much sense. Cleita Nov 2013 #127

Cool story. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #134

Thank you for not giving a damn about the LGBT community. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #133

Don't even claim to know anything about me. My daughter is bi. That does not mean I have liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #148

You obviously don't respect it. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #150

I don't give a damn what you think about me. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #151

Well good for you. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #153

You're assuming that his "views" have sincerely changed skepticscott Nov 2013 #143

Is it him personally, or the church in general G_j Nov 2013 #104

Change has to start somewhere Whisp Nov 2013 #123

What change? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #136

Since Francis alludes to killing the spirit of the poor Gman Nov 2013 #24

What vulture capitalists take communion? Cleita Nov 2013 #78

I'm sure none of them have a guilty conscience about what they do Gman Nov 2013 #110

This is one of many reasons Catholicism is far different Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #26

he has a knack for the obvious maindawg Nov 2013 #28

The pope is far from a liberal. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #30

Yup... SidDithers Nov 2013 #61

When SidDithers and Rush Limbaugh hate the Pope, I know he's doing something right. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #116

When alleged progressives worship an anti-gay bigot... SidDithers Nov 2013 #117

Its called... LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #138

I won't battle the Pope when he says help the poor... MellowDem Nov 2013 #152

This Pope may just snap these poor sheep back to their senses randr Nov 2013 #29

He scares the dickens Aerows Nov 2013 #31

This is huge for us folks Vietnameravet Nov 2013 #33

K&R woo me with science Nov 2013 #34

Oh, I thought you meant he was naming names of LIVE people. Well, isn't this safe. ancianita Nov 2013 #35

I thought he was naming the names of pedophile priests...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #36

Heh heh... ancianita Nov 2013 #37

Why would you have thought that? Are you accusing him of a crime, and if so, what crime? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #86

No, you misunderstand. It was a joke. ancianita Nov 2013 #92

re:Pope Francis is naming names allan01 Nov 2013 #38

Bottom line: Compared to what you expected, this Pope turned out to actually give a shit Dustlawyer Nov 2013 #40

Hear hear! mrsadm Nov 2013 #75

NO COMMUNION FOR LAISSEZ-FAIRE REPUBLICANS! chuckstevens Nov 2013 #43

Except that he's not. ithinkmyliverhurts Nov 2013 #46

The Pope's comments on trickle down economics were great Gothmog Nov 2013 #55

I really like this pope's message on economics and the poor. ananda Nov 2013 #56

I respect this man get the red out Nov 2013 #57

It wouldn't surprise me one bit Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2013 #59

A much better choice than Miley. CFLDem Nov 2013 #63

Rutilio Grande, Alfonso Navarro, Ernesto Barrera, Octavio Ortiz, Rafael Palacios, Napoleón Macías, MisterP Nov 2013 #69

The Obama administration Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #70

So much easier to twist the meaning of the dead... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #74

K&R ReRe Nov 2013 #80

Except Reagan today would be too left wing for the Tea Party PatrynXX Nov 2013 #84

Folks, don't think for a second the religious will be offended at the wingnuts bashing the Pope IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #90

Good points upi402 Nov 2013 #94

Problem is the Protestants in the US harun Nov 2013 #98

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #99

Of course Francis did not use the name 'Reagan' at all, because he and Reagan agree Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #103

I hate it when those pesky facts get in the way. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #137

What I find interesting about this thread is that some here that otherwise would support rhett o rick Nov 2013 #107

Interesting and very ture. raouldukelives Nov 2013 #156

Me and the Pope flamingdem Nov 2013 #119

This Pope makes me want to be a Catholic -- and I'm an atheist BlueStreak Nov 2013 #128

Pope Frank Rocks colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #139

A good chunck of these "chrsitians" worship money and will do anything to get it WCGreen Nov 2013 #142

Francis, as a bigot, has little to no credibility "naming names" nt MellowDem Nov 2013 #149

The RCC is against abortion, yet many Catholics are very strong supporters of abortion. ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #154

Also, the Church is officially against birth control but very few Cleita Nov 2013 #155

Which makes the hypocrisy worse, not better. 'We don't really believe it, but we let our Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #158

Pope Benedict said the same damn thing. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #157