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In reply to the discussion: Why would anyone care whether a woman has an abortion or not? [View all]newcriminal
(2,190 posts)207. I read this the first time you posted it.
This doesn't prove your point. It says:
The majority of women who choose to have legal abortions do not experience regret or long-term negative emotional effects from their decision to undergo the procedure
long-term negative emotional effects - not that they don't feel any negative emotions.
I certainly don't want woman to feel long-term negative emotions, but don't bullshit me and tell me there is no negative emotions with it.
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I'm just curious why you wanted to play devils advocate using that reasoning?
boston bean
Nov 2013
#4
I had to think of a scenario where it would be imperative for women to have babies
quinnox
Nov 2013
#8
With 7 billion of us packing this planet, it is not only no longer imperative, and
Warpy
Nov 2013
#119
The position should be it's her body and she is not willing to share it with a parasitic infestation
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#128
Yes, it is. It can not survive on it's own, it feeds off it's host, it alters it's host to avoid
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#143
Clearly it does not meet the biological criteria for a parasite throughout a pregnacy.
rug
Nov 2013
#158
Deep vein thrombosis, varicouse veins, uterus prolapse, urinary tract infections,
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#180
Now you're being silly. If they share vital organs or systems, the benefit is life.
rug
Nov 2013
#181
Parasitic twin is not a simbiont. It's called 'parasitic' for a reason. One example is enough to
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#183
You made a false statement, I provided evidence that disproved it. One example is enough to do so.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#197
Can't prove a negative. I can't think of a single example of intraspecies parasitism.
rug
Nov 2013
#213
You made a statement that there exists only interspecific parasitism. Prove it, please.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#221
Parastic twins, brood parasitism. I am sorry that scientific community disagree with you.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#231
Those two items are proof of intra-specific parasitism. Meaning you made a false statement.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#236
The brood parasitism is a form of parasitism. What it reminds you of is irrelevant.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#250
It's a foetus until after it was born. It will become an infant after it was born.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#189
A lot of women (and men) started out as an 'unwanted parasitic foetus' as you've
hooverville29
Nov 2013
#242
I'm saying that if people practice contraception bolstered by education, abortions will be rare....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Nov 2013
#16
Who said you must care? By any means, use abortion as birth control, why the hell not?
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#129
I know and a woman that doesn't want a baby shouldn't make her own choices?
boston bean
Nov 2013
#27
And you don't think you do the same based on your personal perspective?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Nov 2013
#32
Some women do. I'm not denying that, but it's not a reason to limit other womens choices.
boston bean
Nov 2013
#34
Saying they want it to be rare, because they think other women might feel badly...
boston bean
Nov 2013
#76
FFS, not that shit again. No, it's not sad, traumatising, or horrible. That's a load of bullshit.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#135
i know plenty of people who have had abortions without experiencing sorrow
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#59
i think when people say, it is sad, they mean "the women should be sad"
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#68
nope, it's a fact. it's based on nothing but the view you have whilst your head is up your ass
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#109
It is obvious by your responses, who is the one with something up their ass.
newcriminal
Nov 2013
#114
Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. None. No regret, sorrow, sadness - nothing but overwhelming relief
REP
Nov 2013
#215
If you felt "No regret, sorrow, sadness - nothing but overwhelming relief"
newcriminal
Nov 2013
#234
i meant to write this to you but accidentally posted it as a thread
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#75
A linguistic trick of affirming the right to abortion while simultaneously devaluing it....
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#166
got it. yet you feel the need to keep using the BS 'rare' mantra without having adult conversations
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#178
Thanks gawd pro-choicers outnumber forced-birthers on DU. I can just imagine "adult" conversations
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#185
Any person who is anti-abortion or wants to restrict abortions is a forced-birther by definition.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#203
I take it you believe there should be no restriction abortion until the moment of birth.
rug
Nov 2013
#205
I think that there should be no restrictions. Absolutely. Woman and doctors can be trusted.
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#210
Really? I'm discussing. That is your categorization of how you read my comments.
boston bean
Nov 2013
#29
So you can see the issue with the framing. I assume so because you do not want to quantify "rare".
boston bean
Nov 2013
#74
No, I don't think so, and anyone reading this thread can see who first used the term. nt
MADem
Nov 2013
#85
I'm not "arguing for" anything but good medical care that will obviate the need for
MADem
Nov 2013
#93
Well, I have, repeatedly, and many times down the years, too, and if you weren't
MADem
Nov 2013
#112
Every woman who could have an abortion otherwise has to go through pregnancy and birth
gollygee
Nov 2013
#48
there is something terribly dishonest about saying that a procedure
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#79
Your use of the word "dishonest" is both loaded and offensive. It's also uncivil.
MADem
Nov 2013
#84
WRONG! There's pubic relations campaigns against wiping out cancer & getting vaccinated>>>
KittyWampus
Nov 2013
#147
By saying they would like it to be rare covers every one of the things you mention. I just
appleannie1
Nov 2013
#49
Medieval chastity belt and the original witch hunt fixation. Current day Republican values.
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#50
Hahahaha!!!! Please find me one, ONE, case where a woman had an abortion
Sheldon Cooper
Nov 2013
#162
Because they believe that life begins a conception, but you already knew that
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#64
Because the TeaPublicans use it as a wedge issue to rally the religious right wing to vote for them.
RBInMaine
Nov 2013
#66
I don't wish the trauma of an unplanned pregnancy or having no other choice than abortion on anyone.
moriah
Nov 2013
#77
So, you don't think that trying to make women feel bad about abortion is not an attempt to limit it?
boston bean
Nov 2013
#97
Nice. Such a pleasure to have conversations with people who employ personal attacks.
boston bean
Nov 2013
#144
Just the other day I got a request for a phone survey from some wingnut organization
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#96
To be fair, the debate over exactly when a fetus/infant gains the protection of the law
Maedhros
Nov 2013
#116
Yes, but these folks don't value the mother's life as much as the new soul's
FiveGoodMen
Nov 2013
#248
Saying it should be rare legitimizes efforts to restrict access to abortion.
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#191
Regardless of why a woman has gotten pregnant, it's up to her to determine her own future.
cui bono
Nov 2013
#131
Because some people really, really, really like to tell other people what to do.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#142
For a lot of religious men, it is an issue of them being able to control women in all ways.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2013
#187
It's not about abortion. It's about naughty ladies not being punished with childbirth.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#194
people who like controlling other people care. decent human beings, not so much.
dionysus
Nov 2013
#225
The same people fighting to stop abortion are against caring for people
liberal N proud
Nov 2013
#226
Because to those who believe that life begins at conception, abortion is murder.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#229
Honestly, doesnt this also apply when pro-choicers brow-beat other pro-choicers for not using the...
NoOneMan
Nov 2013
#257
How he framed the linked post was offensive. Good hide as far as I'm concerned.
boston bean
Nov 2013
#268
Because some people see the loss of life as a regrettable but feel the woman's autonomy is paramount
LostOne4Ever
Nov 2013
#254
Ask the Francis fans. DU is not strongly Pro Choice because DU is a promtional center for
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#271
When you see a story about someone who had their 16th child, lots of DUers seem to care. n/t
hughee99
Nov 2013
#281