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In reply to the discussion: Have democrats largely given up on protecting a woman's right to choose? [View all]niyad
(113,701 posts)166. sadly, it seems that the answer is yes.
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Have democrats largely given up on protecting a woman's right to choose? [View all]
cali
Nov 2013
OP
They aren't? Both Boxer and Feinstein always defends a woman's right to choose. Look at Virginia?
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#28
On the federal level, it's a court issue. legislation is at the state level,
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#5
I know! One should not have to argue with people who don't think women can make
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#149
It's very important for real Democrats here to choose their jury blacklist efficiently.
Zorra
Nov 2013
#182
I read through that post 4 times and I can't figure why the hell it was hidden?
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#169
would like to say that I am surprised your post not only got alerted on, but hidden? but then,
niyad
Nov 2013
#165
Men who watch porn are part of the machinery of oppression. They're not feminists, but when it
ancianita
Nov 2013
#88
I watched McKinnon and Dworkin rip into the Schlafly and Meese crowd, you revisionist.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#104
Right. And here was the main (only) anti-porn Presidential candidate of the last election cycle.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#114
This event hardly proves your claim that she "palled" around with the Meese gang. She influenced.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#121
Fair point. I supported what was said upthread, that's all. You decided to take issue with me. I'll
ancianita
Nov 2013
#125
I can't speak to "churchy men", since I don't spend a lot of time in church.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#126
My closing statement about porn is that anyone who produces or consumes it is not a feminist.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#127
Then you're writing off a very large segment of the population, both men AND women.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#128
Yes, I probably am. It's a large, unconscious population stuck at a certain level of ego.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#131
In a sexist, financially and legally rigged game, worldwide, "consenting adults" is the
ancianita
Nov 2013
#136
And anti-choicers engage in similar mind-breaking pretzel semantics to argue that women aren't
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#140
I do understand that the basis of arguing 'capacity' arguments is based on the religious premise
ancianita
Nov 2013
#141
It's amazing, it only took 6 posts for this thread to go from pro-choice to pro-censorship
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#175
I read "society" here as MEN. Women certainly are not angry about the gains they've made.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#61
Paid tools of male dominated religions.They're put forward as representing millions when they don't
ancianita
Nov 2013
#86
What do you think about them. I think women see them as high visibility tools of patriarchal
ancianita
Nov 2013
#84
I see no attribution to anger in men generally. Domination uses all kinds of ways and means...anger
ancianita
Nov 2013
#122
I've met self-hating women who've internalized misogyny. But misogyny = women hate + power.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#129
I hear you. But you can't forget the constructs that empower them to get away with it.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#137
met? hell, some of them live here and are very comfortable. VERY COMFORTABLE.
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#244
You're right. Even though I've posted about TX several times on FB. Planned Parenthood is our last
ancianita
Nov 2013
#83
As a believer in playing 'the long game' of politics, I very much appreciate your outlook on this.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#92
women issues constitute the one "culture war" area that we've given up on
nashville_brook
Nov 2013
#16
Part of the problem is that pro-choice people in blue states don't see an issue.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#120
Which (I hope) will help turn Texas blue even faster. But in the meantime...?
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#177
If we can't get things done on the federal level, then some sort of end-around play is needed.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#181
But as usual, the Dems aren't fighting them hard enough. And going along to get along
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#178
it's acceptable to spout anti choice comments here on DU as long as it's infrequent and respectful.
boston bean
Nov 2013
#21
Reproductive choice is a part of party platform. Being against gay marriage here is bannable,
PeaceNikki
Nov 2013
#24
I'm not long for this place, check out ATA. I am beyond discouraged, and I just don't
boston bean
Nov 2013
#35
Please point to your posts on DU telling men that they're too emotionally involved on a topic.
Gormy Cuss
Nov 2013
#66
Okay, so link to the posts where you've told men they may be too emotionally involved.
Gormy Cuss
Nov 2013
#75
I'm with you. There is no point. The difference between how minority and gay rights
Squinch
Nov 2013
#132
If you want a primer on how well gay rights are respected, do a search on Chelsea Manning.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#143
Yes. I am also very distressed by this phenomenon, and I think many other DU women are as well.
Zorra
Nov 2013
#89
well said Zorra, I agree that DU has a shameful record when it comes to supporting choice.
bettyellen
Nov 2013
#220
Well, the DU poster in question identifies herself as "extreme leftwing"----
msanthrope
Nov 2013
#145
Anti-gay rights posters are (rightly) banned but anti-women's rights posters
Arugula Latte
Nov 2013
#41
If that was true, half of DU would be banned. I frequently see the 'gay marriage is unthinkable'
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#159
The important thing, either way, is there are too many assholes and idiots around here
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#186
Did someone (and not a troll) *actually* say that to you on this website???
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#183
Well, according to Skinner, as long as forced-birther is "polite" about it, it's OK.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#251
You're right. They're not stopping there. This 20+ week ban is their foot in the door.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#97
welcome to DU. sadly, the thousands of little blue-red battles ARE important, because they are
niyad
Nov 2013
#167
No one I know of is really arguing in favor of unrestricted third-trimester abortion.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#185
I fear that many have. Democratic issues must always be in a state of litigation., while
SoCalDem
Nov 2013
#34
Suppose the OP were re-phrased as "Democrats haven't stood up to Republicans enough
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#195
Yes, why aren't we and the Congress' women demanding more visibility on women's problems?
ancianita
Nov 2013
#69
Come on cali. You should know by now that DU is not the place to discuss issues. n/t
Dawgs
Nov 2013
#72
Those with religious beliefs make up a vast majority of the nation, and thus the voters
Savannahmann
Nov 2013
#95
So, you don't believe that "Women have the right to make their own choices regarding
Zorra
Nov 2013
#110
See, we differ here. Years ago, when I was still a bit naive about conservatives,
Zorra
Nov 2013
#138
Everyone who pulls the lever for an (R) Candidate doesn't think that way.
Savannahmann
Nov 2013
#148
I won't go there anymore. I only discuss politics with Leftists or Independents.
Zorra
Nov 2013
#151
It is impossible to arrive to an agreement with authoritarian fanatics (religious or not).
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#225
They're outnumbered and too relentlessly embattled. They need more male feminist help.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#87
No. Most Americans are pro-choice. However, when a Democrat is in the WH people get complacent, I've
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#103
I think most Americans know which party is more likely to defend a woman's right to choose. n/t
Laelth
Nov 2013
#105
I don't see people insisting that you are imagining the grey. What I see is people saying this:
Squinch
Nov 2013
#170
We don't need to reach an agreement on anything other than that you don't have the right
Squinch
Nov 2013
#203
it's that you are imagining that there is universal agreement with you on this- and youre wrong.
bettyellen
Nov 2013
#221
Bollocks. There are no damn "shades of gray" for me. Forced-birthers are called that for a reason.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#171
Zero adopted unwanted childern, zero fostered, zero homeless single parents living in your house.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#215
Will you take personal responsibility? Would you put a gun to the head of a young woman
Zorra
Nov 2013
#172
No. Precisely because of responses like YOURS we can't have a discussion here.
Squinch
Nov 2013
#204
Sorry, but whether you "buy" what I am saying or not is completely immaterial.
Squinch
Nov 2013
#210
What discussion? It is a CLUMP of CELLS to me, it is MY body, MY choice. I don't force my choice
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#217
And the way to reconcile the shades of grey is to leave the decision making up to the person
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#176
Hey, as long as you aren't trying to infringe upon anyone else's right to reproductive choice
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#199
Never mind "rare" is pure bulshit. Lots of women use vacuum aspiration once a month to control
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#218
Maybe I shouldn't ask, but I'm curious - how exactly does one do that ("vaccum aspiration")?
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#233
And yet, the vast majority of abortions take place in the first trimester.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#214
I noticed in grad school most of the undergrads I knew didn't make it "their issue"
Recursion
Nov 2013
#224
I've never voted for someone who is against a woman's right to choose. I never will.
In_The_Wind
Nov 2013
#243
The abortion battle has largely shifted to the courts and the states
Proud Liberal Dem
Nov 2013
#240