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74. We all have a shared obligation to help others live more healthy lives.

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Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:44 PM

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Bill de Blasio vows to make Mayor Bloomberg's big soda ban a reality [View all] alp227 Nov 2013 OP

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What choice is being taken away? NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #9

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it's about adjusting a dysfunctional environment. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #18

Good... Tikki Nov 2013 #2

Great news. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #3

To those who think we can outlaw obesity customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #4

Do you also disagree with NYC's ban on trans-fats? DanTex Nov 2013 #5

I can quote you all kinds of "science" customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #8

Actually, no, the science does not support discrimination against gay or lesbian people. DanTex Nov 2013 #10

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore that customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #12

This clearly has nothing to do with discrimination or bigotry. It is a public health measure. DanTex Nov 2013 #14

How have all those things worked out? customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #24

Wow, so you really are a full-on Ayn Rand/Milton Friedman libertarian. No regulations at all. DanTex Nov 2013 #28

I'm a sugar addict who is actively working to eat better and control my addiction, but I can tell liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #45

Most people aren't sugar addicts. DanTex Nov 2013 #53

that's why there are different sizes. If you want a small get a small. If you want a large get a liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #59

It's not a ban on drinking, it's a ban on selling. DanTex Nov 2013 #64

how much of my life do want to control? Why not let the republicans tell us who we're allowed to liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #66

Again with the preposterous analogies... DanTex Nov 2013 #69

You are doing a great job on keeping the focus on the issue. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #75

Just because some people have peddled junk science NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #11

So, if a current theory of science customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #13

Except nothing is being banned. No choice is being removed NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #39

It starts out that way customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #52

What is the "current theory of science" on being gay? morningfog Nov 2013 #49

That it's a normal expression of human sexuality customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #56

Legislation has been effective in reducing smoking. morningfog Nov 2013 #58

Because being denied a Big Gulp at 7/11 is exactly like outlawing sex Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #60

Are you seriously comparing sexual orientation with public health issues? uppityperson Nov 2013 #16

I'm talking about human nature customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #25

Drinking soda is not human nature in the same way sexual orientation is human nature Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #31

In my original response customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #67

You really want to dig deeper with your comparision of drinking a small soda and outlawing sex? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #71

Sexual orientation and drinking large soda is in no way comparable. Now you also seem to be uppityperson Nov 2013 #42

Did you really just compare drinking soda to being gay? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #19

What I compared customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #27

Sorry, serving soda in a smaller cup is nothing like banning a sexual orientation Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #33

It is incredibly absurd, and that is being generous. morningfog Nov 2013 #50

And here's the hated "Double Gulp" warrant46 Nov 2013 #37

Its 64 Ounces !! warrant46 Nov 2013 #38

Fun fact: NYC residents have one of the highest life expectantly rates in the USA JaneyVee Nov 2013 #29

How is obesity like homosexuality? morningfog Nov 2013 #48

Attempting to legislate away customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #81

Banning handguns is a horrible example. DanTex Nov 2013 #90

Good. There is no "ban"; it's a limit on portion sizzle. NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #6

So how do you feel about the ban on trans-fats in NYC? DanTex Nov 2013 #7

how do you justify having the government tell me what I can or cannot do? Illinoischick Nov 2013 #22

The government does that all the time. DanTex Nov 2013 #23

Using that argument binds you Union Scribe Nov 2013 #30

Quite the opposite. DanTex Nov 2013 #32

And I've yet to see any benefit. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #34

People consume less when it's readily available. That's the point. DanTex Nov 2013 #35

Drug warriors do not argue for regulation, they argue for criminalization Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #40

+1 daleanime Nov 2013 #65

Oh my, how many fallacious comparisons have I SEEN here! alp227 Nov 2013 #43

Do you support the FDA regulating the safety of your food? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #26

Seeing as how (artificial) trans.fats are unnecessary and generally dangerous at any dose, sir pball Nov 2013 #91

Good post. That's the first rational response I've gotten here. DanTex Nov 2013 #92

I'm good with regulations of inherently harmful substances or behaviors, sir pball Nov 2013 #93

I disagree with him but I am still voting for de Blasio. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17

It exposes an ugly side of him seveneyes Nov 2013 #20

Hmm... pro-creationism, pro-gun, anti-DeBlasio... DanTex Nov 2013 #36

Hmmm...reading comprehension, pro-facts, anti-nanny for adults seveneyes Nov 2013 #41

Not this shit again... Throd Nov 2013 #21

Oh boy, here we go again!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #44

As much as I like the guy, I think he got it wrong here.....nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #46

From what I could tell, most people thought Bloomberg was an asshole for pushing it badtoworse Nov 2013 #47

Well, Sarah Palin certainly thought that. DanTex Nov 2013 #62

I've lived in the New York area my whole life and work in Manhattan. badtoworse Nov 2013 #63

DeBlasio is ahead by some 30-40 points in the polls. DanTex Nov 2013 #70

Doesn't mean DeBlasio won't look like an ass if he pusges it badtoworse Nov 2013 #99

Really? Not a single person? That's quite an insular group of right-wing buddies you've got. DanTex Nov 2013 #100

You'd be surprised the broad spectrum of people you meet when you work in Manhattan badtoworse Nov 2013 #101

Umm... I live in Manhattan. I know just how broad the spectrum of people here is. DanTex Nov 2013 #102

so being liberal means you get to tell people what they are allowed to eat huh? What's next? liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #72

NYC banned trans-fats in restaurants. How do you feel about that? DanTex Nov 2013 #73

Way to lecture a NYer about NY. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #78

Umm... I live in Manhattan. DanTex Nov 2013 #88

Good! Obesity is an epidemic, like tobacco use. I say go for it. morningfog Nov 2013 #51

even with all the shaming, and taxes my father in law smoked for years. Right up until he had liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #79

Anecdotes notwithstanding, smoking and smoking related deaths have decreased. morningfog Nov 2013 #89

Not the smartest thing to say this close to the election. MADem Nov 2013 #54

Priorities, priorites, priorities. Glad he has everyone's health and welfare in mind. adirondacker Nov 2013 #55

who is stopping you from downing 2 sodas? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #57

Ok. So they ban anything larger than 16 ounces. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #61

Lots of ways around the ban. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #68

Nothing stops them from getting refills, that's not the point Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #95

False equivalency. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #96

STD treatments and diabetes treatments both use resources that could be used for something else Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #97

We all have a shared obligation to help others live more healthy lives. FarCenter Nov 2013 #74

I'm sorry, but I don't need you to help me live a healthier life. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #76

Nope. You still get to own your own addiction. You can still buy a two liter Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #82

What a bozo Politicalboi Nov 2013 #77

"More aggressive." What if the ban on large drinks fails to reduce Skip Intro Nov 2013 #80

I hope he also combines the initiative with public health campaigns along the lines Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #83

Let me ask you - Skip Intro Nov 2013 #85

The government is not restricting how much soda you can drink.. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #86

SCIENTIFIC evidence also shows that restaurant soda consumption isn't the problem. sir pball Nov 2013 #94

There are other ways this could be tackled. David__77 Nov 2013 #84

thank you for saying that in the right order. Most people want to tax unhealthy food to discourage liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #87

On a personal level I'm all for trying to get people to drink 16oz of soda or less with a meal Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #98