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54. I believe that ignoring facts for political expediency leads to more corruption too.

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k&r Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #1

Well stated. panader0 Oct 2013 #2

Well said Cali. marmar Oct 2013 #3

thank you marmar. that's one of the things I find so frustratring about cali Oct 2013 #4

The pro war, pro spy, pro global corp, pro 3rd way, pro party over truth Dems are very evident. L0oniX Oct 2013 #56

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #60

+2 reddread Oct 2013 #62

K&R LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #5

Even though you said before that nothing you say here makes a difference, sammytko Oct 2013 #6

no, I said that what's posted here about a candidate doesn't have an impact on cali Oct 2013 #9

Geez, I was trying to be helpful sammytko Oct 2013 #11

Maybe, that's against the rules. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #61

Trade-offs BKH70041 Oct 2013 #7

How do you equate chervilant Oct 2013 #12

I believe in American capitalism. BKH70041 Oct 2013 #32

How is "American capitalism" different than just plain "capitalism". delrem Oct 2013 #98

oic... chervilant Oct 2013 #104

Did you just make that rule up out of thin air? Enthusiast Oct 2013 #85

You would be wrong. Chan790 Oct 2013 #110

k&r nt antigop Oct 2013 #8

Thank you, great post... beerandjesus Oct 2013 #10

Hear hear Cali. zeemike Oct 2013 #13

You have nailed it, Cali. annabanana Oct 2013 #14

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #15

Associating with Democrats at DU must be a most disagreeable experience for you. grantcart Oct 2013 #16

OP isn't talking about members of DU leftstreet Oct 2013 #19

lol I am talking about people who consider themselves members of the grantcart Oct 2013 #21

DINO supporters are a minority here n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #22

So in your words anyone who considers themselves a Democrat is a DINO. grantcart Oct 2013 #23

LOL nice try. So in your words the OP isn't a Democrat? leftstreet Oct 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #69

the ironic thing, is as you know, I don't attack people for being "DINOs" cali Oct 2013 #28

I am a member of the Democratic party. I have been for decades. cali Oct 2013 #27

wow. I don't expect that kind of ridiculous crud from you. cali Oct 2013 #26

What is astonishing is that you are so completely wrapped up in a narcisstic point of view grantcart Oct 2013 #40

Read the OP again. It is a *conciliatory* message. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #48

thank you. As I explained to grantcart, it's also a riff on the Bertrand Russell/EM Forster cali Oct 2013 #52

Thought so. Bertrand Russell influenced my own thinking quite a bit! beerandjesus Oct 2013 #53

Really? grantcart Oct 2013 #59

good grief. the irony is rich. you are whinging about just what YOU did to me. cali Oct 2013 #63

You can't credibly deny that you were making personal attacks. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #71

uh, you're not familiar with the EM Forester and Bertrand Russell essays cali Oct 2013 #50

run, run, run away from your own ignorance. Lol. cali Oct 2013 #58

Sorry that is off topic grantcart Oct 2013 #64

another false claim. sad. YOU accused me of being narcisisstic. I informed cali Oct 2013 #66

We are here to share what we believe. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #86

thanks that was kind of you cali Oct 2013 #99

"Ted Cruz perspective from the left?" Dead on.....nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #29

really? then you won't have any trouble making that case and cali Oct 2013 #31

Hmmm....a retracted and discredited AP story. A poorly-sourced Politico article. A Wikipedia msanthrope Oct 2013 #37

wow. a fucking disgraceful lie. I NEVER POSTED THAT STORY cali Oct 2013 #39

I never said you posted that story. But you used that story to push your narrative. msanthrope Oct 2013 #45

I most certainly did not. cali Oct 2013 #46

And you used the AP story. joshcryer clearly pointed out to you in this thread that you msanthrope Oct 2013 #49

I did not. And read post 9 in that thread. cali Oct 2013 #51

Cali, your intent may have been good, but severely badly-timed. I can accept that explanation from msanthrope Oct 2013 #79

I wonder if the people trolling you are actually Democrats. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #38

it's their vile disgusting flat out lies that I deplore. cali Oct 2013 #41

You may not care how close this vote was Sissyk Oct 2013 #65

thank you for your concern cali Oct 2013 #75

Of course I don't endorse Sissyk Oct 2013 #80

I don't. Rex Oct 2013 #77

They are not........nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #87

Looks to me like encouragement to self-reflection is disagreeable to you. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #36

thank you. man, I really don't get what in hell is controversial about my op cali Oct 2013 #43

The point of the OP is to speak out about corporate control of the Democratic Party. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #74

Excellent "mission statement", Cali. Sun Tzu has sage advice about "The Art of War"... Surya Gayatri Oct 2013 #17

Absolutely agree, Cali. closeupready Oct 2013 #18

DURec leftstreet Oct 2013 #20

TPP is a bid to greatly advance corporate power worldwide. JEB Oct 2013 #25

the creeping fascism has been obvious for a long time now stupidicus Oct 2013 #30

I would agree with you on that. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #33

oh, but don't you know. the nutcases say I'm Ted Cruz of the right cali Oct 2013 #34

Recently I started to ignore them. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #35

+1. The very wealthy have always run this country and... Bonhomme Richard Oct 2013 #42

Both parties could use to have more faith in creativity and entrepreneurialism starroute Oct 2013 #44

what the CU did maindawg Oct 2013 #47

I believe that ignoring facts for political expediency leads to more corruption too. L0oniX Oct 2013 #54

and stating them leads to furious attacks and cali Oct 2013 #55

Corporations slowly realizing now they went too far ErikJ Oct 2013 #57

But rage, rage Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #67

K & R nt GoneFishin Oct 2013 #68

The usurpation of the Rs right in front of their noses AmBlue Oct 2013 #70

too late? I think this has always been a generational issue that requires eternal vigilance bigtree Oct 2013 #72

K&R raouldukelives Oct 2013 #73

In the shadow of our cowardice, chervilant Oct 2013 #105

there shouldn't be anything controversial about this op. cali Oct 2013 #76

There is nothing controversial about your OP, cali. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #89

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #78

k&r... spanone Oct 2013 #81

Kicked and Recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #82

thanks, Enthusiast. cali Oct 2013 #84

Heh, some here are so accustomed to attack you Celefin Oct 2013 #100

heh. the funny thing is that neither of those things are true cali Oct 2013 #101

But it makes a good narrative ;) Celefin Oct 2013 #103

TPTB have decided that it is just too dangerous to leave this nation in the hands of the people. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #83

What is "the corporate threat?" treestar Oct 2013 #88

the corporate threat is embodied in the spread of cali Oct 2013 #102

Thanks cali, nailed it again. Scuba Oct 2013 #90

When they can assassinate JFK and drive us off a cliff fiscally, livingwagenow Oct 2013 #91

I'm skeptical on most conspiracies... liberalmuse Oct 2013 #94

As Heisenberg would say... liberalmuse Oct 2013 #92

Agree Cali 100% colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #93

"MONEY MONEY MONEY It's a rich mans world..." blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #95

+100000000. You are so right. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #96

IMO, the tea party threat requires our immediate attention ecstatic Oct 2013 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Oct 2013 #106

If corporations own both parties, why are they furious at the GOP right now? randome Oct 2013 #107

I didn't say that. I said a corporate takeover of our democracy is a real threat. cali Oct 2013 #108

If I didn't see your point clearly, that doesn't point to 'dishonesty'. randome Oct 2013 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Oct 2013 #111