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Warren DeMontague

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26. Fukushima is a giant fucking mega-clusterfuck, but Gundersen tends towards hyperbole.

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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 12:47 AM

Sep 2013

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I take what he says with a grain of salt, just like I do TEPCO.

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Humankind’s Most Dangerous Moment: Fukushima Fuel Pool at Unit 4 [View all] Junkdrawer Sep 2013 OP

Sign Petition Here: Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #1

thank you gopiscrap Sep 2013 #52

Signed and shared. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #61

It boggles my mind that the World Community didn't Step into this just after KoKo Sep 2013 #2

For example: All that radioactive water? Well, it's mountain runoff seeping.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #4

I wonder if folks these days think that Nuclear Radiation is just a Hoax or Something! KoKo Sep 2013 #6

Japanese doctors are now told to NOT inform their patients when a malady... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #8

Japan basically told the rest of the world.. PearliePoo2 Sep 2013 #7

The problem is that would have to happen at Japan's request davidpdx Sep 2013 #11

Godzilla Syndrome agent46 Sep 2013 #32

Gunderson said extracting these rods from the damaged pool... PearliePoo2 Sep 2013 #3

And the odds of creating a inadvertent criticality are not zero. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #5

Where was the World Community of Experts in Nuclear Science who could KoKo Sep 2013 #9

I weep for the children of Japan.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #10

"two months or less to act." johnnyreb Sep 2013 #12

they got the Olympics Bennyboy Sep 2013 #13

Those with industry experience should be shouting the loudest... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #14

K&R n/t NealK Sep 2013 #15

Remember it was the tree huggers who said something like this was very likely to happen some day.... JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Sep 2013 #20

We have some of those right here posting in the EE forum madokie Sep 2013 #36

"your ignorance is not as good as their knowledge" MisterP Sep 2013 #54

Not looking good for mankind. Not at all. AAO Sep 2013 #17

Good grief, CLEAN IT UP CLEAN IT UP, NO DON'T CLEAN IT UP, DON'T AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #18

Read the OP please. TEPCO doesn't know what it's doing.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #39

The OP's source doesn't know what it's talking about. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #46

A weird question about accidental criticality mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #19

Nope, that would effectively be what is called a "dirty bomb" pffshht Sep 2013 #21

Huh, that makes sense mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Sep 2013 #23

Mindwalker, going critical doesn't mean blowing up 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #65

The possibly a more careful definition is in order mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #66

Whoa there buddy. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #67

Aw man, why you harshing on the neutrons? mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #70

Boron is a pretty good moderator 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #71

Oh please, not even close. hunter Sep 2013 #24

thatvwas an interesting Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #55

You see Japan as an underdeveloped country? 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #69

I was reffering Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #72

You're certainly right about that 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #68

Who will volunteer to be a hero? defacto7 Sep 2013 #25

They aren't dragging their feet. They've been busting their asses. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #27

No they have not. defacto7 Sep 2013 #28

They ARE fixing it. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #30

Noble optimism. defacto7 Sep 2013 #33

I don't imagine they are going to be able to get out all of the rods AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #47

Thanks for your input. defacto7 Sep 2013 #53

Where is "We bring good things to life" GE in all of this? Downwinder Sep 2013 #29

In the US, the emergency generators that would have kept the cooling AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #31

"fuckup is mostly TEPCO's fault" Agreed. So WHY let them continue... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #40

Because it's their mess. vOv AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #48

Causing traffic accidents doesn't make you a Trauma Surgeon. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #58

not according to this questionseverything Sep 2013 #41

Right, and TEPCO was warned almost a decade ago that a tsunami would trash AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #49

the point is questionseverything Sep 2013 #57

It's possible they could have helped, but AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #60

i agree they are not safe questionseverything Sep 2013 #63

Requires that we take control of them from private or semi-private public entities. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #64

Take the TEPCO executives and move them into Fukishima at gun point. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #38

Ann Coulter claims that radiation is good for you. Let's send her in to clean it up bare handed. stevenleser Sep 2013 #50

yes, I volunteer all teabaggers too board ships and head out ThomThom Sep 2013 #62

Fukushima is a giant fucking mega-clusterfuck, but Gundersen tends towards hyperbole. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #26

Please help me with the "tends toward" comment. defacto7 Sep 2013 #34

Fine. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #35

ok defacto7 Sep 2013 #44

Could you point to where Arnie talks about "imminent criticality"??? Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #56

Not mankind's most dangerous moment by a long shot NickB79 Sep 2013 #37

K&R redqueen Sep 2013 #42

No nukes in GA, thank you:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #43

The hippies were/are right. Once again. Zorra Sep 2013 #45

Wow and we're not hearing much about this in the news gopiscrap Sep 2013 #51

Kick !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #59