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cordelia

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107. INVISIBLE???!????

Reply to Taverner (Reply #102)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:27 PM

Sep 2013

Now that's rich.

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"Why The South Is More Violent Than The Rest Of America" [View all] applegrove Sep 2013 OP

I honestly think the heat has something to with it Skittles Sep 2013 #1

Well coming from Canada where we are in a cocoon for half the year I can applegrove Sep 2013 #3

I also believe it is vestigle from the civil war. They lost. That rankles. roguevalley Sep 2013 #24

Many athletically inclined southern boys I met when I was a teenager seemed to be going to Cleita Sep 2013 #31

I ll tell you the heat makes me irritable. rl6214 Sep 2013 #61

AW SAME HERE Skittles Sep 2013 #111

And poverty. Being poor is no help in that. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #105

Oh god, yes etherealtruth Sep 2013 #126

"Top Gear" guys visit Alabama. "Man Love Rules" and "NASCAR sucks" written on side of vehicles. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #2

Hilarious! rdharma Sep 2013 #5

Note to self, remove NASCAR Sucks sign from car before driving south. liberal N proud Sep 2013 #104

Well, there's the problem right there Fla_Democrat Sep 2013 #4

"Why The South Is More Violent Than The Rest Of America" BlueJazz Sep 2013 #6

Did the OP limit the "analysis" to only one (1) race? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #20

Did the poster you're replying to mention a race? n/t TroglodyteScholar Sep 2013 #26

See upstream. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #41

Not sure what you mean but I've observed the same traits in the Female from the South, USA.... BlueJazz Sep 2013 #28

Crime rates vary as to race, income other factors, but Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #47

How did they determine that testosterone levels rose? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #7

I remember something years ago about the Scots-Irish heritage so prevalent... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #8

I believe it was in Joe Bageant's book "Deer Hunting with Jesus"...nt Bigmack Sep 2013 #11

Great book. Recommend it to all. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #49

it's called ignorance, racism and greed gopiscrap Sep 2013 #9

So, only white folks were considered? No other races? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #21

Did the poster you're replying to mention a race? n/t TroglodyteScholar Sep 2013 #27

See upstream. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #42

One of the many reasons we left the South after a lifetime there. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #10

It's true. xfundy Sep 2013 #12

As a southerner, I have to be honest - ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #13

That's what I thought after my first reading. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #60

A partial explanation of why I see this experiment as flawed Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #83

What the experiment failed to point out ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #85

And that varies by region. Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #87

I disagree....calling a person an asshole ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #88

In Philly the level of profanity direct at strangers shocked me Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #100

Amazing what people ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #101

I don't know. I was shocked when I moved to VT. Politest, friendliest cali Sep 2013 #103

People are more polite in the south--ha ha ha Kolesar Sep 2013 #154

Scott Irish border culture nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #14

No better friend in a foxhole rrneck Sep 2013 #22

thats my excuse pitohui Sep 2013 #131

Not joking nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #133

It's not the heat, it's the humidity. It just pisses people off. JMHO. freshwest Sep 2013 #15

And it goes way back Retrograde Sep 2013 #16

Well, we do have Atlanta, New Orleans, and Memphis... Skip Intro Sep 2013 #17

From the responses, apparently only in good ol' boy white blood. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #25

Did the poster you're replying to mention a race? n/t TroglodyteScholar Sep 2013 #29

No. just looking at the Scots-Irish,.Good ol' Boy, NASCAR, etc. references... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #35

That junk is getting old, Eleanor's 38 5 shooter. Please Hoyt Sep 2013 #33

This thread is just another episode of white southerners Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #34

It's disgusting. I live in the middle of it, but have learned to survive. Hoyt Sep 2013 #36

Did the poster you're replying to mention a race? n/t seveneyes Sep 2013 #44

Point on question for all these fans of the South and its white-washed culture. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #40

So people pointing out the South was settled by predominantly Scots-Irish jeff47 Sep 2013 #73

Getting past the silliness, the OP dealt with some out-sized violent Southern culture... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #79

Discussion of one group doesn't mean that group is entirely to blame. jeff47 Sep 2013 #120

Again, this contention is crippled by citing only white cultural phenomena Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #124

Yes, that is a given for many here, it seems. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #118

Precisely. Charges of racism are standard fare with many "liberals." Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #121

thank you Brainstormy Sep 2013 #76

Hmm, does that include all of the south, like South Central, South Side, South Bronx? bluesbassman Sep 2013 #18

May I recommend a book? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #30

Look, I have no problem with examining cultural and socioeconomic regional differences. bluesbassman Sep 2013 #39

In academic circles nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #43

When in NorCal, avoid South Sac. Throd Sep 2013 #74

It seems from the report that hot weather and poverty may be the predominant dynamics. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #19

So why then does the American South have higher murder rate than India? coldmountain Sep 2013 #48

No doubt because U.S. citizens have many more guns than Indians. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #98

That "sultry heat science" had been proffered & debunked Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #51

Do you have a link to the debunking because that doesn't square with the OP? Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #99

My hand-held doesn't reliably link, but here is a Google Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #123

SO where does that other 60% of all violent crime happen? Rex Sep 2013 #23

See this link for a better breakdown maddezmom Sep 2013 #67

Guess that explains all those good ol' boys just spoiling for a fight! polichick Sep 2013 #32

And yet, of the 25 most dangerous cities in the US as ranked by the FBI, Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #37

I recall the first time I drove through the South AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #38

I can name a few places in California that are pretty creepy Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #45

I was only 4 or 5 when I lived in Compton AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #53

I once went to a job interview in Compton Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #54

Ouch. Guess it was a good thing to warn you AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #58

South San Francisco is a separate city KamaAina Sep 2013 #89

There was lots of gang activity in South San Francisco Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #146

By no means all of Oakland is creepy. KamaAina Sep 2013 #90

Poverty. DemocraticWing Sep 2013 #46

+1000 applegrove Sep 2013 #50

+1. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #70

+1 nt Javaman Sep 2013 #72

Can't believe it took 46 posts for this (correct) response to come out. DireStrike Sep 2013 #145

"People in the South are so nice!" Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #52

Compared to other places they are very nice. Dawgs Sep 2013 #64

Briefly as a child Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #125

Regionalistic crap. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #55

+1. Dawgs Sep 2013 #65

Plus another 1 cordelia Sep 2013 #69

+1. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #71

Maybe they should bring back duelling. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #56

So Aggressive, So Macho dem in texas Sep 2013 #57

Bullshit Male "Honor Code" upbringing. PassingFair Sep 2013 #144

I don't find aggression and machismo very attractive meow2u3 Sep 2013 #148

Red state poverty. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #59

Looking at the most violent data with a finer comb, and the states they're including in the south Rstrstx Sep 2013 #62

Maryland and DC are not in the South. I don't have a problem with TX. Dawgs Sep 2013 #63

Thanks for pulling out the stats maddezmom Sep 2013 #66

Of course they will not, it can be seen through this entire thread. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #141

Well done daleo Sep 2013 #134

You haven't started a South bashing thread in a while. cordelia Sep 2013 #68

Come on now. How often do we talk applegrove Sep 2013 #117

The South has pulled us down into its right-to-work cheap-labor, racial animus, and deregulation. Romulox Sep 2013 #75

Which begs the question.... ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #80

The same reason it is so hard to build, but so easy to destroy. Don't you see the destruction? nt Romulox Sep 2013 #82

What I see is a country divided.... ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #84

We don't want the country to fall to the lowest common denominator. With regards to Romulox Sep 2013 #91

Then do something about it. n/t ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #93

Easily explained by all the Yankees that moved here. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #77

So you're calling me an asshole, mole? nolabear Sep 2013 #78

Ah, more fuel for the south haters Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #81

I guess they were running out of things ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #86

Yep, pecwae Sep 2013 #114

And all of the rest of the country ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #116

I don't think it's South Hatred per se Taverner Sep 2013 #94

I will catch hell for this, but many whites in the South feel entitled to something Taverner Sep 2013 #92

Seriously? ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #95

oh heck yeah Taverner Sep 2013 #96

I see very few in Virginia. ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #97

The North has its own blend of "Invisible Racism" Taverner Sep 2013 #102

INVISIBLE???!???? cordelia Sep 2013 #107

It's just called that - hence my quotes Taverner Sep 2013 #109

Of course there is a Klan in the south ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #108

I never said "all" Taverner Sep 2013 #112

You appear to judge the whole south ohheckyeah Sep 2013 #115

Nemo me impune lacessit aikoaiko Sep 2013 #106

Cause they are in the Bible Belt, they are good Christians n/t doc03 Sep 2013 #110

Here is why DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #113

Uneducated, uniformed, encouraged ignorance & republicans using hate to promote fear. LaPera Sep 2013 #119

Other parts of the country take criticism and reality checks all the time. applegrove Sep 2013 #122

Rubbish. One link to one story about poverty in Southern California does not equal cordelia Sep 2013 #150

Fat people would rather shoot than fight Link Speed Sep 2013 #127

It's a technical point of law, just as in the military, where being drunk is a defense. dimbear Sep 2013 #128

And I wonder too if violence doesn't suppress people from not following customary law. Which, applegrove Sep 2013 #129

There do seem to be distinct regional variations in culture. I don't know LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #130

yeah to me people in west are just crass pitohui Sep 2013 #132

Oh I totally understand about the crass thing. I am from Montana and LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #143

A culture of quaker bill Sep 2013 #135

That Scotch-Irish Celtic heritage shit being spouted here is a myth. The Midway Rebel Sep 2013 #136

Nope, not a myth nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #137

From YOUR source... The Midway Rebel Sep 2013 #138

Yes, and many came to virginia as well nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #139

So, Idaho is part of the South. The Midway Rebel Sep 2013 #140

Cultural geography is your friend nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #142

Scotch Irish has fuck all to do with it... The Midway Rebel Sep 2013 #147

I don't think it's just poverty... YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #151

Little known fact ... dawg Sep 2013 #149

Thanks, Canadian citizen Aerows Sep 2013 #152

Nobody said anything about everyone being that way. Just that some work needs to be done. applegrove Sep 2013 #153

People where I live aren't whiners. We don't have to settle every harm Kolesar Sep 2013 #155