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ProSense

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3. It's fascinating how
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:09 PM
Sep 2013

people simply assert that Kerry lied because they disagreed with what he said.

1) Yesterday I unpacked the claims of precisely 1,429 killed in the chemical attack, noting that all other sources put it much lower—in some cases at only one-fourth that number. I won’t repeat what I wrote but note that the White House still has given no source for this. At the presser today, Obama mentioned 1,400 “gassed”—not “killed.” I presume just a slip but wish a reporter had followed up.

How is that a lie? Kerry said "killed, Obama said "gassed"? This is silliness.

As for the claim the case he made "backfired," let's assess the situation:

Members Congress have condemned the attack by Assad. France and Germany have presented their own evidence that Assad did it.(http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023590778)

There is a joint statement by 11 of the G20 countries (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023610073)

Strangely, people who oppose a limited strike, are lining up behind a "sign this or all out war" proposal (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023611153)

Senators Heitkamp and Manchin float diplomatic alternative to military strikes on Syria
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/06/1236747/-Senators-Heitkamp-and-Manchin-float-diplomatic-alternative-to-Syrian-military-strikes

Still to come, Congress will vote and, later in the month, the UN will issue its report.

Yes it is painful to watch. I don't know what they were thinking dkf Sep 2013 #1
Great article. The number of dead issue has bothered me. snappyturtle Sep 2013 #2
I heard 2,500 day before yesterday CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #26
It's fascinating how ProSense Sep 2013 #3
Thanks ProSense for some facts and common sense. Cha Sep 2013 #4
People talking about the number treestar Sep 2013 #22
it's so sad to see them stooping to this level of dishonesty -- why lie? why not tell the truth? nashville_brook Sep 2013 #5
They do seem to be lying or deluding themselves about who the opposition really is. Coyotl Sep 2013 #12
it's the same old song and dance we've been doing in the middle east since the 50s nashville_brook Sep 2013 #27
Its too bad they're such liars. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #6
Agreed. Coyotl Sep 2013 #9
agree n/t upi402 Sep 2013 #30
He's beginning to look more and more like Colin Powell. Th1onein Sep 2013 #7
Colin Powell Redux. Coyotl Sep 2013 #10
To call any of those "lies" is hyperbole. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #8
Would you call them simply "untruths" then? Coyotl Sep 2013 #14
they are worse at lying than the Bush people Enrique Sep 2013 #11
Degrees of lying? Really? Coyotl Sep 2013 #13
Wall Street Journal Op-Ed Draws Scrutiny Over Writer's Ties To Syrian Rebel Advocacy Group Coyotl Sep 2013 #15
I believe she has been named "Curvebelle". HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #18
Deja Blue! Coyotl Sep 2013 #19
Obama Warned on Syrian Intel Coyotl Sep 2013 #16
Pretty impressive report. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #24
So ProSense Sep 2013 #29
Ouch... Little Star Sep 2013 #31
K&R Same old lies, repackaged for a new war. woo me with science Sep 2013 #17
I can't believe how inept and tone deaf they are Catherina Sep 2013 #23
Beyond crude, its totally inept. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #25
Just because Bush lied doesn't mean they all lie treestar Sep 2013 #20
Of course, the OP isn't about "they all" Coyotl Sep 2013 #21
"CT nonsense"? Aerows Sep 2013 #28
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