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In reply to the discussion: The Lies at the Heart of the Obama/Kerry Push for War—and Why They've Backfired [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)3. It's fascinating how
people simply assert that Kerry lied because they disagreed with what he said.
1) Yesterday I unpacked the claims of precisely 1,429 killed in the chemical attack, noting that all other sources put it much lowerin some cases at only one-fourth that number. I wont repeat what I wrote but note that the White House still has given no source for this. At the presser today, Obama mentioned 1,400 gassednot killed. I presume just a slip but wish a reporter had followed up.
How is that a lie? Kerry said "killed, Obama said "gassed"? This is silliness.
As for the claim the case he made "backfired," let's assess the situation:
Members Congress have condemned the attack by Assad. France and Germany have presented their own evidence that Assad did it.(http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023590778)
There is a joint statement by 11 of the G20 countries (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023610073)
Strangely, people who oppose a limited strike, are lining up behind a "sign this or all out war" proposal (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023611153)
Senators Heitkamp and Manchin float diplomatic alternative to military strikes on Syria
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/06/1236747/-Senators-Heitkamp-and-Manchin-float-diplomatic-alternative-to-Syrian-military-strikes
Still to come, Congress will vote and, later in the month, the UN will issue its report.
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Coyotl
Sep 2013
OP
it's so sad to see them stooping to this level of dishonesty -- why lie? why not tell the truth?
nashville_brook
Sep 2013
#5
They do seem to be lying or deluding themselves about who the opposition really is.
Coyotl
Sep 2013
#12
it's the same old song and dance we've been doing in the middle east since the 50s
nashville_brook
Sep 2013
#27