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22. It is good for the debate that he is still in the race.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:09 PM
Feb 2012

Report: US may be forced to "militarize" Syria crisis.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002288483

Congress Passes Bill to Proliferate Drone Use in US Airspace (FAA says up to 30,000 by 2020)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002287989

So Iran is our new “Enemy.” Are we going to fall for this crap again?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002288384

Top US counterterrorism official: drone critics are Al Qaeda enablers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002279862

War with Iran! Are you kidding me? says Dennis Kucinichhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/11066


The "What If" Speech

“Madame Speaker, I have a few questions for my colleagues. What if our foreign policy of the past century is deeply flawed and has not served our national security interests? What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others and has nothing to do with us being free and prosperous?

What if propping up oppressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel? What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and bombing Pakistan is directly related to the hatred directed toward us? What if some day it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, or Afghan people are killed or displaced?

What if we finally decide that torture even if called “enhanced interrogation technique” is self destructive and produces no useful information and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?

What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy? What if all war time spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing? What if we finally see that war time conditions always undermine personal liberty?

What if conservatives who preach small government wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government? What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?

What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests? What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations? What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq? What if a military draft is being planned for, for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?

What if the American people learn the truth that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next? What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests? What if president Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam - put together? What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression? What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?

What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded? Nothing. But what happens if my concerns are justified and ignored? Nothing good.”

And I yield back the balance of my time.”


This was spoken by Ron Paul in front of the House of Representatives in February 2009. Dennis Kucinich would endorse this, and probably a few other Democrats, as well....but not the Democrats in the spotlight...the Democrats we need to be saying things like this.

This is why I am glad Ron Paul is still in the race. And, no, this is not an endorsement for voting for him. But why is it that the only politician in the national spotlight we hear speaking these truths, actually using the word "warmongering" during a debate and talking about corporate benefit from these atrocities, is an extreme libertarian who would also rip away our safety nets and abolish critical government functions and safeguards?

We desperately need a national conversation about these things. We should have had a DEMOCRATIC candidate saying these things. Instead, the relentless push seems to be to get everyone to shut up.

The only way things will change is to get the money out of politics. We must take back our party from the corporate interests who have purchased it and our media, and who are guiding the national conversation.

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Ron Paul is for real Kennah Feb 2012 #1
Do you remember... Xipe Totec Feb 2012 #2
+1 Fearless Feb 2012 #17
I'm more of a Kusinich fan than Ron Paul fan. JNathanK Feb 2012 #3
Ron Paul will take money from anyone who'll fork it over. coffee snob Feb 2012 #15
You sound ridiculous. Despite what they say, no one is going to elect an American president... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #19
gud georage Feb 2012 #4
Ron Paul's views are heavily supported, imo, by those who support the CIA, FBI, and such. joshcryer Feb 2012 #5
How so? JNathanK Feb 2012 #7
There are several groups, I'm talking about those groups... joshcryer Feb 2012 #8
Fuck Ron Paul and his stupid ass supporters. trumad Feb 2012 #16
I consider Ron Paul surreal, and too old for office amongst other things. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #6
Well, it depends on what color you are. For people who look like me, Ecumenist Feb 2012 #10
In this case, least scary is still too freaking scary for political office. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #11
Not to mention his disgusting remarks... Leftist Agitator Feb 2012 #12
Amen, Leftist! Ecumenist Feb 2012 #20
depends on your reproductive organs, too BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #14
I believe that too, Blanche. I'm not only black but female. Ecumenist Feb 2012 #21
! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #23
He's as real as can be. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #9
Sheldon Adelson Dokkie Feb 2012 #13
I think that you changed the subject. Either it's true or not true, as indicated in the AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #18
It is good for the debate that he is still in the race. woo me with science Feb 2012 #22
I'm with you. His foreign policy and drug policy stances... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #24
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