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In reply to the discussion: So Its Now Pretty Obvious Snowden Gave the Names of US and British Agents to China and Russia [View all]Whisp
(24,096 posts)178. okay, I'm not sure where I heard they were
but now I'm going to have to be Real Careful how I say that.
I think Miranda is the best and safest.
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So Its Now Pretty Obvious Snowden Gave the Names of US and British Agents to China and Russia [View all]
arely staircase
Aug 2013
OP
well, no basis other than all the top secret documents with the encryption code written on paper
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#20
Miranda did not go to Russia or China - this all your fantasy (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#143
Miranda claims he had no idea what he was carrying. If he is telling the truth
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#207
He claimed he didn't know what he was carrying and yet he had the "password"
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#210
CIA Runs Agents - NSA Does Signals Intelligence - Why Would Agent Names Be Part Of NSA Files?
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#26
Why indeed? Especially when most of the NSA "intel" is private Communions between people just living
RC
Aug 2013
#62
Yes - Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) And Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Matters
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#68
Because Of The Division Of Responsibility Be The Tow Intelligence Agencies
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#199
According to DU rules shouldn't this kind of thread be in Conspiracy Theories.
avaistheone1
Aug 2013
#131
since it is being reported today by the washington post, cnn and business insider
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#135
oh ok then I guess we should post all stories from major media outlets
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#139
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "boyfriend" being a homophobic slur
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#24
so me and mine should stop calling each other that? seriously we would both like to know what you
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#48
One of my best friends is straight and you know what? He first introduced her as 'my date' and
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#115
Which implies it is much easier to know the proper term when one is more close to the parties.
Liberal Veteran
Aug 2013
#224
and i know straight and gay people who refer to people they have been with more than 5 years as
JI7
Sep 2013
#243
he ended warrantless wiretapping, raised taxes on the rich ended torture and did not cut
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#203
Speculation At Best - CIA Runs Agents - Not NSA - All Part Of Continuing Character Assassination Efforts
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#25
Snowden TooK NSA Files - Why Would British Agents Be Part Of Signal Intelligence Files
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#33
It's my contention that this Libertarian 'Army' does a lot more spying than we thought.
randome
Aug 2013
#40
Interesting Speculation - AFAIK The Files Related To Signals Intelligence Not Covert Spy Networks
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#43
So you theorize that there is a Libertarian Army conspiring to spy on somebody?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#144
It's a theory. A guess. The fact that Wikileaks rushed to Snowden's defense 'proves' nothing.
randome
Aug 2013
#151
You'll notice that 'army' is quoted, which is grammatical shorthand for 'so-called'.
randome
Aug 2013
#156
Shouldnt discussions of a mystic Libertarian Army and their conspiracy be relegated to
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#165
Are you asking or telling? I didnt even mention "hosts". I was simply trying to
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#216
Again Speculation - Signals Intelligence Information And Spy Networks And Agent Name Are Not The Same
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#46
so then the phone data collection isn't spying, since it is being done by the NSA? nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#50
i know I am calling bullshit on the poster's claim the NSA isn't a spy organization nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#72
I Never Stated That The NSA Does Not "Spy" - However, The NSA Does Not "Run" Agent Networks
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#78
Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Parts Of "Spying"
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#71
The link in the OP refers to them as "highly classified UK intelligence documents."
randome
Aug 2013
#132
Snowden originally worked for the CIA. Maybe he ultimately is part of the CIA/NSA feud over funding.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#74
Further evidence that there's only one kind of conspiracy theory allowed in GD.
Democracyinkind
Aug 2013
#27
Snowden worked for the CIA in Geneva and elsewhere. His collection probably goes back
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#51
"Obvious?" How do you know that? You don't. You are guessing and that theory fits
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#55
Those claims were made in legal arguments requesting the permission of the court to review
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#158
they have indeed asked (and I believe received) permission from the court to continue to analyze the
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#167
well I am a computer algorithm persona within a giant NSA mainframe computer
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#59
Because no-one in the real world has said he did 'give up' any intelligence agents
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2013
#245
I really hate to contribute to these flame bait/character assassination posts, but
hueymahl
Aug 2013
#58
The UK Govt. is judging security? The same UK Govt. that allowed all their shit to get stolen? n/t
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#130
Mr. Greenwald's certainly has, and Ms Poitras is in question, but it remains to be proven.
bemildred
Aug 2013
#92
someone here has suggested the stuff was planted on Miranda's computer.
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#98
Well, he obviously likes his job, so I do expect him to keep at it, as best he can.
bemildred
Aug 2013
#112
He will also issue some sanctimonious tweets as soon as the story starts changing too n/t
sweetloukillbot
Aug 2013
#198
It's alien hoodies that are spying on us! That 'woman' is obviously a plastic manikin!
randome
Aug 2013
#105
They are their own worst enemies so maybe the best thing to do is leave them be.
randome
Aug 2013
#88
So the NSA totally blows off pretty basic data protections, and that's cool, but
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#96
But I notice that the Anti-CT squad has approved this message. They only lock CT that goes against
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#119
Personally I think we are to "CT" paranoid. Obviously some CT gets way crazy, but
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#169
I am disappointed but not surprised at your petty ridicule. Are you here to only
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#173
Why should private contractors have access to this information in the first place?
Snake Plissken
Aug 2013
#122
so that should also apply to Snowden, proof he can hack into Obama's email, etc.,
Whisp
Aug 2013
#164
if he did send Miranda through Heathrow unknowingly carrying an encrypted list of British agents
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#195
so if someone not intrusted with your credit cards got ahold of them and took off to europe
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#153
And when you're talking about people's lives at stake, it's even more important to not take chances.
randome
Aug 2013
#159
yeah, the stakes are much higher than a credit card situation -lives are on the line nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#227
if the british can decrypt enough of it to see that the info revealed the identities of their agents
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#187
What do you think he was doing at the Russian consulate with the data?
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#247
It certainly makes the choice of Moscow the destination from Hong Kong curious...
SidDithers
Aug 2013
#180
Detained partner of Guardian journalist was ‘human carrier pigeon’, High Court is told
Whisp
Aug 2013
#213
gay and bisexual men have boyfriends, I know because I am one who does. jeez
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#240