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65. This deserves a timely kick

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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:50 PM

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"The Falcon and the Snowman" and the Bradley Manning/Julian Assange affair. [View all] Cleita Aug 2012 OP

Amen, sister a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #1

Where are all the Assange haters? Cleita Aug 2012 #2

ummm... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #3

Waiting to get the talking points from Frank Luntz? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #63

You mean the people who actually use whistler162 Aug 2012 #58

Go by their actual deeds, not the film's. sofa king Aug 2012 #4

Oh I don't think the film passed them off that sympathetically. Cleita Aug 2012 #8

I want to see that dirty laundry. sofa king Aug 2012 #23

That is a chance we will have to take to rip away the curtain. Cleita Aug 2012 #39

You are so right. Kath1 Aug 2012 #64

You are so right KT2000 Aug 2012 #5

Mr. Manning has not been beaten and tortured. I would think msanthrope Aug 2012 #6

Really? You believe that. Cleita Aug 2012 #9

Kindly cite where, in the defense filings, his attorney claims he was 'beaten and msanthrope Aug 2012 #17

I don't know. Could it be his attorney has a strategy that precludes Cleita Aug 2012 #26

What? You claim he was 'beaten and tortured'---can't cite it at all, and then claim his msanthrope Aug 2012 #32

willful ignorance is the worst kind.... mike_c Aug 2012 #11

Every defense team probably since the dawn of time insists their client is treated poorly. randome Aug 2012 #13

You guys get more transparent by the minute. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #15

Transparency is a good thing. randome Aug 2012 #21

The claim was 'beaten and tortured' show me where his attorney claims a msanthrope Aug 2012 #22

See my post #26. Cleita Aug 2012 #28

Cite that!!! Where in the defense attorney's court filings..which detail the incident msanthrope Aug 2012 #35

Yes, and since the court filings don't show that, we must ignore the evidence that says Cleita Aug 2012 #37

What? He gets 'beaten' by guards and his attorney, in describing the incident msanthrope Aug 2012 #41

Believe what you like. Cleita Aug 2012 #43

Right. 'Cause you have info his attorney doesn't. You have info about torture msanthrope Aug 2012 #53

His attorneys actually protested his treatment. Cleita Aug 2012 #55

They did more than 'protest.' They wrote a 110 page motion detailing msanthrope Aug 2012 #61

just a somewhat tangential aside... mike_c Aug 2012 #7

I don't believe it's changed for the better, only the worst, but at least we Cleita Aug 2012 #10

Also... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #12

I do believe we had a coup completed during the Bush administration. Cleita Aug 2012 #20

One of the requirements to take over a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #30

This is why the issue of Assange cannot be debated clearly. randome Aug 2012 #14

oh? Really? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #16

Nothing but the facts as I see them. randome Aug 2012 #19

No disrespect... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #27

Fair enough. randome Aug 2012 #31

On the other hand... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #33

FYI. This is based in fact. Those were real people and a real Cleita Aug 2012 #18

They sold info on spy satellites. Regarding US interventions in the Nixon era, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #50

I'm way ahead of you. I know what they did and the price they paid for it. Cleita Aug 2012 #51

Statist supporters will pick on any perceived flaw xchrom Aug 2012 #24

IIRC that was a two-man job selling drugs and CIA secrets in Soviet Russia struggle4progress Aug 2012 #25

hey struggles! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #29

... Nearly three decades ago, his father had helped him land a job at TRW Inc. in Redondo Beach. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #45

sounds like an interesting story! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #46

also... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #47

Adjusted for inflation, their 1976 take of $77K would have been worth about $300K today struggle4progress Aug 2012 #48

secret selling's a dirty game a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #49

You must be very young or very old, because that type of idealism and disdain for Cleita Aug 2012 #52

I remember the 60s. Nixon won in 68 and won re-election in 72, despite Watergate struggle4progress Aug 2012 #57

So I guess it's our fault we couldn't make the change. Cleita Aug 2012 #59

It's our fault as long as we don't learn from our mistakes struggle4progress Aug 2012 #60

This is just silly Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #34

Yes, he wasn't a good German was he? Cleita Aug 2012 #36

Sorry, but I think Bradley Manning should spend 25 years in Leavenworth, at minimum. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #38

He is a scapegoat and he probably will spend a lot of time in Leavenworth no Cleita Aug 2012 #40

David Coombs isn't JAG. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #42

No he isn't but there are JAG attorneys assigned to the case according to this: Cleita Aug 2012 #44

Right...and they are all so incompetent they forgot to mention the msanthrope Aug 2012 #54

Really, I can't believe you are in such denial. Cleita Aug 2012 #56

Okay..let me see if I have this straight....Manning's attorneys file an Article 13 msanthrope Aug 2012 #62

This deserves a timely kick Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #65