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In reply to the discussion: I am getting sick and fucking tired of hearing that anyone opposed to NSA domestic . . . . [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)FUCK RAND PAUL!
FUCK RAND PAUL!
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FUCK THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, WHICH DEMOCRATS HAVE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST, EVEN IF SOME HERE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT WHEN THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR PARTY LOYALTY OVER THAT OF THE COUNTRY! AND YES I'M YELLING WITH CAPS, AS THOSE HERE REFUSE TO LISTEN TO US!!!!
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FUCKING WHETHER WE AGREE WITH RAND PAUL OR OTHER LIBERTARIANS ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU KEEP ACCUSING US FALSELY OF CHAMPIONING IN YOUR EFFORT TO DEFLECT CRITICISM OF THOSE IN CHARGE'S CONTINUED VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS BY AGENCIES UNDER ITS CONTROL.
OK, I'm tired of yelling now...
But I do want to say:
1) There are a number of things I do support that Libertarians also support in terms of government accountability on civil liberties and not spending money on wars. These are positions that traditional Democrats and those who are REAL progressives have always professed, even during the Bush years. I think they also can be talked to about pot decriminalization. Now what else do they have?.... Hmmm.... I'm thinking... Not too much.
2) There are a lot of things that Libertarians do that I HATE... We are not talking about those things now. Snowden and Greenwald aren't talking about those things in the issues that are under debate here now. Why do people like YOU keep bringing them up if we aren't talking about them. Because you don't have anything to defend what is going on in the NSA and our security state, other than trying to distract us REPUBLICAN and CORPORATIST style from dealing with the fundamental big issues in front of us of our constitutional rights being violated.
If you want to continue your love/hate obsession with Ron and Rand Paul and other Libertarians, take it someplace else. Many of us are tired with trying to clean up the trash out of these threads when we are trying to focus on the real issues of the day.