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Bonobo

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30. Ummmm, I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:02 AM
Aug 2013

Let's review (said in irritated teacher voice):

1. Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation into government surveillance to Ms. Poitras, Mr. Greenwald said.
= That means that Greenwald said the documents related to his investigation.

2. Those documents, which were stored on encrypted thumb drives, were confiscated by airport security, Mr. Greenwald said.
= That means Greenwald said the documents were confiscated and on encrypted thumb drives.

3. All of the documents came from the trove of materials provided to the two journalists by Mr. Snowden.
= That means that it is an unsubstantiated claim and the author does NOT attribute it to Snowden.

Don't blame me, I was born smart.

How could the reporter know what was on the drives? Bonobo Aug 2013 #1
Maybe Assange/Poitras set him up. LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #3
= "I don't know and I don't care!" Bonobo Aug 2013 #7
You seem obsessed with maps, what a strange non sequitor. I post something relevant KittyWampus Aug 2013 #9
Really? Bonobo Aug 2013 #14
I'm obsessed with maps? Bonobo Aug 2013 #17
Lol I hadn't seen that. dkf Aug 2013 #31
Bam! Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #188
He isn't even using the "right" map!!! Talk about "too clever by half..." MADem Aug 2013 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #143
Greenwald is the one saying it was on the drives Egnever Aug 2013 #4
Where did he say that? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #10
um... Egnever Aug 2013 #21
I don't see anywhere where it states there were stolen documents being transported. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #28
It must suck to be shown to be wrong with your own quote. Bonobo Aug 2013 #35
Pardon me? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #53
He was talking about your post to the other poster HangOnKids Aug 2013 #57
Ok, it is Waaay past my bedtime. LOL Thanks. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #60
I am referring to Egnever being shown wrong with the quote he/she supplied. Bonobo Aug 2013 #58
. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #64
I am cracking up HangOnKids Aug 2013 #72
I just woke up and am drinking my coffee reading this. Puglover Aug 2013 #152
What is wrong with what Egnever quoted? pnwmom Aug 2013 #139
Nowhere does it say "stolen" or "classified." reusrename Aug 2013 #145
Thanks for clearing everything up. pnwmom Aug 2013 #172
Egnever was pretty clear and dead on. The fact that some here appear to have misunderstood that very Number23 Aug 2013 #207
What do you think this means? pnwmom Aug 2013 #138
Ummmm, I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. Bonobo Aug 2013 #30
LOL Egnever Aug 2013 #37
Nope, just saying that your post #4 above is a misread. Bonobo Aug 2013 #39
You're right they were just trying to be mean to him Egnever Aug 2013 #44
I understand. You are angry because I showed that you cannot read well. Bonobo Aug 2013 #49
Amused at your flailing would be more on target Egnever Aug 2013 #71
Anyway, your assertion of #4 above was proven false. Bonobo Aug 2013 #75
But the TROVE HangOnKids Aug 2013 #77
You believe the British government? AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #109
Believe them about what? Egnever Aug 2013 #119
No arrest AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #189
But the TROVE Gawd please respect the TROVE HangOnKids Aug 2013 #47
You got to respect the trove! Rex Aug 2013 #116
Hey the bake and shake from the TROVE is delish! n/t HangOnKids Aug 2013 #118
SO are the trove brownies! Rex Aug 2013 #121
"documents related to investigation into government surveillance" joshcryer Aug 2013 #38
Lots o people encrypt things that are not stolen, Josh. Bonobo Aug 2013 #45
I'll await GG's clarification. joshcryer Aug 2013 #51
I think you believe that Bonobo Aug 2013 #56
I do see things in shades of gray. joshcryer Aug 2013 #68
Empty your cup, Josh. Bonobo Aug 2013 #73
Could you be less snarky? joshcryer Aug 2013 #78
Well...he's able to post pictures on DU Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #82
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratsForProgress Aug 2013 #125
Game. Set. Match. Number23 Aug 2013 #208
Could be files containing legal argument -- discussions of the law on surveillance, on terrorism, JDPriestly Aug 2013 #137
that's sure alot of "could be's" VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #185
Here's the NYT source: joshcryer Aug 2013 #22
Yup that's what I thought. Bonobo Aug 2013 #33
Very acute reading skills. Rex Aug 2013 #48
Every other sentence said "Greenwald said". Except for the one important sentence. Bonobo Aug 2013 #50
I'm not and I caught it on the first go around. Rex Aug 2013 #59
Some seem occupied with removing crow feathers from between their teeth. Bonobo Aug 2013 #69
Plus the NYT doesn't have much in the way of trust. Rex Aug 2013 #85
They didn't catch it because they didn't want to. Marr Aug 2013 #100
Actually I will give some Dur's the benefit of the doubt. Rex Aug 2013 #106
Got any hairs you want to split? n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #140
Three lines ending in "Greenwald said"? joshcryer Aug 2013 #55
Editing IS my day job. Bonobo Aug 2013 #62
So you're saying the NYT lied? joshcryer Aug 2013 #70
No, I never said that. Bonobo Aug 2013 #79
The NYT is making the claim. joshcryer Aug 2013 #84
Is it your belief that NYT reporters never work to help the govt.'s case a bit? Bonobo Aug 2013 #87
Nope, but Charlie Savage has cred. joshcryer Aug 2013 #90
I cannot judge as to his credibility. Bonobo Aug 2013 #96
But Bodie can't spell. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #194
No, Bonobo has a very good point. Recursion Aug 2013 #114
It was kinda obvious, but you believe whatever you want to. Rex Aug 2013 #67
I have no reason to believe the NYT interviewers are lying. joshcryer Aug 2013 #74
True time will tell if this is a stunt or actual Rex Aug 2013 #80
"trove of materials provided by Mr. Snowde" could mean anything. joshcryer Aug 2013 #86
The point is hat we have an unsubstantiated claim and I don't see what is wrong with me Bonobo Aug 2013 #89
Fair enough. joshcryer Aug 2013 #91
I can't understand that; that person is like the second most watched person in the Rex Aug 2013 #99
Poitras has been given free reign to travel the world. joshcryer Aug 2013 #107
Then GG is looking to distract for some other reason Rex Aug 2013 #120
Poitras cannot even safely "come home" to the USA HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #155
Poitras is regularly hassled when she travels. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #174
Why do I keep seeing people saying "sending his loved one" as if Miranda isn't an adult? cui bono Aug 2013 #127
Good catch (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #112
Perhaps you should post a TRUTHFUL OP to counter the lies. This OP should be deleted by the mods chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #157
Do you have a link to support your statement? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #135
None other than the NYT article linked in this thread somewhere Egnever Aug 2013 #142
At best . . . at worst. We shall have to wait and see. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #144
Certainly possible Egnever Aug 2013 #146
This still makes no sense to me Recursion Aug 2013 #2
File sizes were too large to email, I imagine. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #5
Well, I mean put them on an SCP server somewheret Recursion Aug 2013 #23
Only reason to do it in person is fear of being "traced." joshcryer Aug 2013 #42
What if he didn't want his next story to be scooped or revealed before he was ready? Bonobo Aug 2013 #94
You can encyrypt over the internet. joshcryer Aug 2013 #97
That is fair. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #101
I dont think Greenwald is as bright as people think he is Egnever Aug 2013 #6
Well, he could always play the big "I'm not intimidated" Cha Aug 2013 #16
I think he was told incorrect information. joshcryer Aug 2013 #27
I am sure given the nature of the whole story Egnever Aug 2013 #54
It explains why he involved his partner at all. joshcryer Aug 2013 #61
Are you still up? ha! I am one of those surprised that snappyturtle Aug 2013 #34
Well I am sure he thought it was safer Egnever Aug 2013 #41
I know the feeling about the laptop! Second night in a row!..nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #52
Then why wasn't he arrested? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #8
+1 to both points. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #12
Do you believe Greenwald would testify against his non-journalist partner? joshcryer Aug 2013 #19
Then why on Earth do you think Greenwald told the reporter there were stolen docs on there? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #81
Heresay, he's a lawyer, he knows that much. joshcryer Aug 2013 #95
Doesn't explain why he would tell a reporter that. Come on now. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2013 #131
#25 below seems to explain this. They confiscated the thumb drives but probably are working on stevenleser Aug 2013 #182
I'm sure they'll be able to pick him up in Brazil. (not) Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #186
Interesting Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #11
If the files are encrypted, how would they know? tinrobot Aug 2013 #13
Lot of bullshit is what it is. Bonobo Aug 2013 #15
Magic 8 ball. n/t HangOnKids Aug 2013 #40
They have his electronics, it's not hard to place something on it in order NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #183
There is no evidence that Miranda was carrying stolen docs. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #18
... Whisp Aug 2013 #43
For clarity's sake - where is this quote from? sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #20
here Egnever Aug 2013 #25
Thanks - sounded like NYT stylebook to me sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #36
Smuggle illegal documents? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #113
This is not a direct quote. Where did it come from? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #65
Well the files were encrytped Egnever Aug 2013 #88
Ha ha. NOW you seem to get it. Bonobo Aug 2013 #92
Does it matter? Egnever Aug 2013 #103
Britain is now empowered to investigate crimes against the US? AngryAmish Aug 2013 #191
If he was potentially guilty of ANYTHING, he would not have been released. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #110
Bazinga! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #115
As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that many of my clients thought that very msanthrope Aug 2013 #158
How many of those were under the terrorism laws? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #160
The terrorism laws of the UK? None. Terrorism laws here? Quite a few. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #161
Then I pity your clients. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #164
Oh, I've never had a client convicted of a terrorism charge, and very few actually went to trial on msanthrope Aug 2013 #165
That's very likely becaiuse you' ve never had a client charged with terrorism DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #195
Oh, I have.....you'd be surprised how many DAs think adding on a terrorism count or msanthrope Aug 2013 #196
Former print journalist here: really piss-poor copy editing at the NYTimes is what I HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #168
So he was arrested for theft, then. Thanks for link, this is the first I heard of this. DU rocks! freshwest Aug 2013 #104
NYT just dropped it. joshcryer Aug 2013 #32
Mercy me. Well, I assume they read him his Miranda rights at least. Hekate Aug 2013 #24
Yeeehaaa! jberryhill Aug 2013 #46
Viva the fruitarian revolution! freshwest Aug 2013 #129
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #63
Don't give up your day job HangOnKids Aug 2013 #105
Oh hey, it's you again. Hekate Aug 2013 #122
Yeah, that one was just lying there. I wouldn't have been able to resist it, either! freshwest Aug 2013 #204
What information? And, why is it classified? By whom? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #26
Doesn't bother me. I hope he smuggled the rest of the stolen documents back to Brazil in his shorts limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #29
And if you're carrying stolen classified info Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #66
Did they arrest him? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #108
Was British airport security tipped off by the DEA or the IRS through NSA surveillance? OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #93
They wouldn't have to Egnever Aug 2013 #111
Riiiiight AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #102
Exactly. progressoid Aug 2013 #117
When they recover the stolen material and the person has nothing else they need? sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #123
But if he broke a law, he should have been arrested. progressoid Aug 2013 #124
He might not have known what he had. sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #126
British beefeaters don't wan't to get into it with Brazil. Trade makes strange bedfellows. freshwest Aug 2013 #136
All they have to do is email the documents AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #190
Why do you post this in a tone that sounds like you are just looking for a way to condemn GG? cui bono Aug 2013 #128
I keep that one around just for entertainment purposes Skittles Aug 2013 #132
She's Beyond Sick/Tired Of Being Called An "Authoritarian NSA Apologist" Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #162
LOLOL Skittles Aug 2013 #130
HOW EVEN MORE SHOCKING HE WAS RELEASED! :-| n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #133
Oh dear! Rex Aug 2013 #141
It is ironic because Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #166
Do you have a link? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #134
No, what's shocking is how fucking abusive and incompetent these two governments are. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #147
How shocking that someone defends the MIC/Security apparatchik hobbit709 Aug 2013 #148
I am not surprised Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #163
Once again we have DUers defending an attack on freedom and the press..... bowens43 Aug 2013 #149
Not stolen, under English law (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #150
What a little terrorist. morningfog Aug 2013 #151
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #153
Yet, Miranda was let go. So much for carrying stolen classified material neverforget Aug 2013 #209
Why wasn't he charged, then, if he was smuggling stolen items? Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #154
That's fair comment dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #156
Miranda is a citizen of Brazil - TBF Aug 2013 #171
I hope Brazil surrounds the British embassy in Brasilia, declares all its UK personnel HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #175
So you think that no one can be detained unless they are guilty? treestar Aug 2013 #180
Some people have had that privilege, huh. freshwest Aug 2013 #198
No, that is not what I said Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #203
Not necessarily. I've had clients think that because they were released from their primary contact msanthrope Aug 2013 #181
Comments number 25 and 158 seem to explain that. stevenleser Aug 2013 #184
I've been laughing since I read this yesterday. Seriously? He sent his partner*** msanthrope Aug 2013 #159
I'm reserving my laughter for when your spouse or partner is detained without HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #173
I've never sent my husband to do my job, but if I did expect my husband to courier documents stolen msanthrope Aug 2013 #176
Don't expect me to speak up on your behalf when your husband is HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #177
I'll let him know that he's lost your support. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #179
Compassion and outrage dependent on hero status here, I guess. It's the internet... freshwest Aug 2013 #200
This OP has a "Dead or Alive" feel to it....... marmar Aug 2013 #167
They've just started ... TBF Aug 2013 #169
LOL. marmar Aug 2013 #170
Hardly the stuff of martyrdom! JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #178
Leave Glennn alone!!111!! freshwest Aug 2013 #206
Is it terrorism? Savannahmann Aug 2013 #187
Clearly it is. AngryAmish Aug 2013 #192
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #193
Yes, it is shocking that he was detained under TERRORIST ACT. ocpagu Aug 2013 #197
still Beyond Sick/Tired Of Being Called An "Authoritarian NSA Apologist? MisterP Aug 2013 #199
I know, right? nt Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #201
This has been thoroughly debunked, as a steaming pile of BS. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #202
Welcome to the Charlie Savage punked club. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #205
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