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In reply to the discussion: It's a shame that Democratic abandonment of anti-war has left the door open to Ron Paul types [View all]Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)30. maybe I'm a nutjob, but the way I see it, people don't get behind chained CPI unless a democrat
pushes for it. It's a numbers game. If the pukes hold 47% of the public, and you know they love the idea of decreasing social security, well then all they need to pick up is 5-10% of democratic support and they are able to do so because the president proposed and endorsed a repuke idea. It just takes a few easily swayable, people without the courage of their social policy convictions to defend the president's republican idea and that repuke Idea now has majority support.
Yes, I think perhaps a republicanish Obama may quite well be worse than Ron Paul because he actually holds the sway to make that bullshit idea a reality.
Color me nutjob.
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It's a shame that Democratic abandonment of anti-war has left the door open to Ron Paul types [View all]
Bonobo
Aug 2013
OP
Agree, well said! It should never be my team right or wrong! Our team is wrong
RKP5637
Aug 2013
#101
I'll stand with a Libertarian on matters of personal freedom and better foreign policy
Hydra
Aug 2013
#7
I attack Republican policies, I attacked Bush policies, right on their own territory for
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#14
The "Centrist" "New Democrat" Party Leadership has created a HUGE Vacuum on The Left.
bvar22
Aug 2013
#8
yes they have. For the first time in 19 years I don't consider myself a democrat.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#18
That's when it became increasingly obvious to Americans that LBJ 's claims that we
blue neen
Aug 2013
#66
Your reference to the daily body counts reminded me that Stanley Karnow, in his
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#121
LBJ allowed the American people to believe that General Westmoreland's strategy
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#119
Yeah, the Tea Party ran on decreasing corporate influence and increased regulation
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#15
Progressive Dems did just fine in the 2010 mid-terms. It was Blue Dogs who took a hard
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#123
I find it surprising that democrats are okay with losing votes to Paul.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#32
letting the Loyalists, of course, blame the outrage against banksters itself...
MisterP
Aug 2013
#41
Only a mentally defective nutjob would suggest that Obama and the Democrats
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#13
maybe I'm a nutjob, but the way I see it, people don't get behind chained CPI unless a democrat
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#30
So, you think social security cuts and austerity would be less likely under
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#52
No need to overthink matters when it comes to those who would abolish income taxation
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#108
Exactly! What is so wrong with saying I agree with you about this and I disagree with you ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2013
#26
You do realize that the president wants to profitize education, and Obamacare codifies
Doctor_J
Aug 2013
#117
Rand Paul: Any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States
ProSense
Aug 2013
#22
Yeah, yeah, we get it, the Pauls are assholes. No big fucking revelation there.
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#33
To think that she is in an opposition party to the Party of Bomb bomb bomb Iran, McCain.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#96
the politicians count on that kind of attitude to continue doing whatever they want.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#40
I won't accept either. I will not vote for democratic candidates who vote for either gound war or
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#47
A friend from DU sent me a bumper sticker that reads - "It's hard to convince people that you are
Mnemosyne
Aug 2013
#82
There is a puritopian element on the left that refuses to give an inch to the reality
BeyondGeography
Aug 2013
#49
"a fair amount of Muslim male energy still dedicates itself to perfecting the underwear bomb
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#88
you got it!! Exactly the same way people who criticize American foreign policy in the Middle East
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#107
neither will I nor will the posters on this forum who oppose the authoritarian surveillance state
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#115
It feels so good to be in control of one's own vote again. Not automatically
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#71
well they used to pretend to be anti-war anyway. Now they don't really even pretend anymore.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#83
Heard the same crap circa 2000. Back then it was poor Al Gore who, ironically, wasn't...
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2013
#84
it is an unfortunate reality that many young people are likely to be lost to the libertarian cause
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#93
The 3rd Way Dems, at least among the rank-and-file, are either short sighted or too moonstruck
Doctor_J
Aug 2013
#116
I think Rand Paul is a crass opportunist - I think Ron Paul is a genuine ideologue
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#128
Its hilarious watching people react when getting outflanked on these traditional issues
NoOneMan
Aug 2013
#127
there simply is no "vision thing" about the Democratic Party these days. At least in 1964 we were
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#149