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In reply to the discussion: It's a shame that Democratic abandonment of anti-war has left the door open to Ron Paul types [View all]Hydra
(14,459 posts)7. I'll stand with a Libertarian on matters of personal freedom and better foreign policy
And I'll fight them when they want to remove gov't services, regulation, privatize, etc.
They're not all wrong, they just aren't all right which is why I'm a Dem and not one of them. Sad when I have more in common with them than leaders of my own party though.
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It's a shame that Democratic abandonment of anti-war has left the door open to Ron Paul types [View all]
Bonobo
Aug 2013
OP
Agree, well said! It should never be my team right or wrong! Our team is wrong
RKP5637
Aug 2013
#101
I'll stand with a Libertarian on matters of personal freedom and better foreign policy
Hydra
Aug 2013
#7
I attack Republican policies, I attacked Bush policies, right on their own territory for
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#14
The "Centrist" "New Democrat" Party Leadership has created a HUGE Vacuum on The Left.
bvar22
Aug 2013
#8
yes they have. For the first time in 19 years I don't consider myself a democrat.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#18
That's when it became increasingly obvious to Americans that LBJ 's claims that we
blue neen
Aug 2013
#66
Your reference to the daily body counts reminded me that Stanley Karnow, in his
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#121
LBJ allowed the American people to believe that General Westmoreland's strategy
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#119
Yeah, the Tea Party ran on decreasing corporate influence and increased regulation
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#15
Progressive Dems did just fine in the 2010 mid-terms. It was Blue Dogs who took a hard
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#123
I find it surprising that democrats are okay with losing votes to Paul.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#32
letting the Loyalists, of course, blame the outrage against banksters itself...
MisterP
Aug 2013
#41
Only a mentally defective nutjob would suggest that Obama and the Democrats
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#13
maybe I'm a nutjob, but the way I see it, people don't get behind chained CPI unless a democrat
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#30
So, you think social security cuts and austerity would be less likely under
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#52
No need to overthink matters when it comes to those who would abolish income taxation
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#108
Exactly! What is so wrong with saying I agree with you about this and I disagree with you ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2013
#26
You do realize that the president wants to profitize education, and Obamacare codifies
Doctor_J
Aug 2013
#117
Rand Paul: Any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States
ProSense
Aug 2013
#22
Yeah, yeah, we get it, the Pauls are assholes. No big fucking revelation there.
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#33
To think that she is in an opposition party to the Party of Bomb bomb bomb Iran, McCain.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#96
the politicians count on that kind of attitude to continue doing whatever they want.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#40
I won't accept either. I will not vote for democratic candidates who vote for either gound war or
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#47
A friend from DU sent me a bumper sticker that reads - "It's hard to convince people that you are
Mnemosyne
Aug 2013
#82
There is a puritopian element on the left that refuses to give an inch to the reality
BeyondGeography
Aug 2013
#49
"a fair amount of Muslim male energy still dedicates itself to perfecting the underwear bomb
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#88
you got it!! Exactly the same way people who criticize American foreign policy in the Middle East
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#107
neither will I nor will the posters on this forum who oppose the authoritarian surveillance state
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#115
It feels so good to be in control of one's own vote again. Not automatically
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#71
well they used to pretend to be anti-war anyway. Now they don't really even pretend anymore.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#83
Heard the same crap circa 2000. Back then it was poor Al Gore who, ironically, wasn't...
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2013
#84
it is an unfortunate reality that many young people are likely to be lost to the libertarian cause
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#93
The 3rd Way Dems, at least among the rank-and-file, are either short sighted or too moonstruck
Doctor_J
Aug 2013
#116
I think Rand Paul is a crass opportunist - I think Ron Paul is a genuine ideologue
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#128
Its hilarious watching people react when getting outflanked on these traditional issues
NoOneMan
Aug 2013
#127
there simply is no "vision thing" about the Democratic Party these days. At least in 1964 we were
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#149