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friendly_iconoclast

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5. I think astroturfing is more common amongst the pro-control sorts, frankly.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:21 AM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sat Aug 17, 2013, 09:27 PM - Edit history (1)

For example, Mayors Against Illegal Guns is entirely the creature of Michael Bloomberg
and The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence has fewer than 50,000 members

The American Hunters and Shooters Asociation turned out to be almost 100% synthetic.

Americans for Gun Safety was actually triangulation for Third Way Democrats

http://www.agsfoundation.com/


A Note to AGS Visitors

Americans for Gun Safety (AGS) and the AGS Foundation (AGSF) have been folded into Third Way, an organization founded and operated by the former AGS and AGSF management team.

For Third Way’s latest gun safety policy and message guidance, please visit our gun issues page. There you can also find reports produced by AGS in a special sub-category.

For current gun safety data and other information, we recommend the American Hunters and Shooters Association, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

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Like I said, if you've got actual evidence (as opposed to rumor) that the Liberal Gun Club are not
what they purport to be, by all means post it. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
sounds good, financing? sigmasix Aug 2013 #1
Looks like an NRA astroturf front group mwrguy Aug 2013 #2
Do you have any evidence for your assertion? If so, please post it. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #3
Just looks fishy as hell mwrguy Aug 2013 #4
I think astroturfing is more common amongst the pro-control sorts, frankly. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #5
"...Most 'liberal' gun groups..." Then you should have ample evidence, right? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #9
I've asked for evidence. As yet, none has been produced. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #15
There is this whooshing sound HangOnKids Aug 2013 #20
Not really, we prefer verifiable facts over faith friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #39
And two days after asking, no evidence has been produced... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #57
It would be beneficial sarisataka Aug 2013 #6
They would be more effective than the NRA. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #16
The majority of drivers operate a car on the road every day or nearly every day Fumesucker Aug 2013 #7
Making it all the more important that those that *do* own guns know how to operate them... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #14
Being near a gun is more dangerous than not being near one, all else being equal Fumesucker Aug 2013 #17
Factor in that vehicles are not designed to kill, oneshooter Aug 2013 #22
Multi ton machines moving at high speeds under haphazard operation are inherently dangerous Fumesucker Aug 2013 #35
"However unlike guns cars do have other uses besides killing living things." friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #41
By no means are cars remotely as deadly as guns in terms of deaths per hour of actual use Fumesucker Aug 2013 #43
A few posts ago, guns were dangerous just from being around them. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #45
What I said was all else being equal being around guns is more dangerous than not being around them Fumesucker Aug 2013 #47
That's the key. burnodo Aug 2013 #52
Thanks for posting this Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #8
DU members owe it to themselves to read this. She has looked at the "gun issue"... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #10
So I take it that you're a member as well? Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #11
A member of what? The essay is from the "Good" web site, I believe. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #12
Yeah, I was just wondering if you had any firsthand experience with them... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #13
No, just reading their posts and watching their programs... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #19
The Balkanization of politics around guns? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #21
So, what do you think of the OP? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #23
I was replying to you HangOnKids Aug 2013 #24
Then your reply is meaningless. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #25
Do you think I give 2 shits what you think? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #26
You came here just to ask me to go away?... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #28
Quite contrary pintobean Aug 2013 #30
ummm...yes? burnodo Aug 2013 #32
LOL I am so sorry about all your hidden posts HangOnKids Aug 2013 #38
I'm not burnodo Aug 2013 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #50
Well, assuming this group doesn't view Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #56
Can you imagine anyone named 'Zimmerman' on a cross? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #58
I'm a member of the LGC tumtum Aug 2013 #55
I was pro-gun control once upon a time. I went shooting a few times, educate myself. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #18
Bingo Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #29
Whoomp there it is. Bake Aug 2013 #31
Another bingo Populist_Prole Aug 2013 #49
I'm liberal enough to know that guns are meaningless death machines burnodo Aug 2013 #33
They'll recognize it.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #34
Here's one that admitted it right in this thread Fumesucker Aug 2013 #36
This thread is useless without pictures Fumesucker Aug 2013 #37
#1: ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN ARGUMENTS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #40
I value the lives of children more than I do firearms Fumesucker Aug 2013 #42
Then help Democrats in pro-gun states get elected. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #44
I'm not on any sort of crusade at all, I'm just arguing on an online forum Fumesucker Aug 2013 #46
Here's another one rl6214 Aug 2013 #59
Way to fire, DU Gun Enthusiasts. Paladin Aug 2013 #48
I doubt that. If someone is open enough to go beyond their comfort zone... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #53
I stand by my comments. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #54
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