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In reply to the discussion: Army Releases Photo of Wikileaker Bradley Manning in Wig and Makeup (Corrected) [View all]Cali_Democrat
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Army Releases Photo of Wikileaker Bradley Manning in Wig and Makeup (Corrected) [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
OP
Who released this? THE DEFENSE entered this into evidence. Did you read your own link? nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#43
Why, precisely, should the judge punish the defense? They entered this into evidence. It was
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#41
Some defense testimony this week centered on this photo, in an attempt to explain Manning's acts
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#42
The defense? This is a defense exhibit, released under FOIA. Besides which, what is wrong with the
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#45
Nothing is wrong with that photo, however they protrayed her as having a mental illness.
Neoma
Aug 2013
#238
Um--her own defense did. Not the prosecution. It's not a defense I would have used, but I'm not
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#250
I think you're going to be busy for the rest of the day, replying to these posts. :)
tofuandbeer
Aug 2013
#108
Hopefully this will most painfully blowback upon the government and give aid to Brianna. n/t
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#4
Why would it blow back on the government? It's a DEFENSE exhibit, released under FOIA.
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#47
Unless he was sending pictures of his penis to women who were sexting with him....
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2013
#105
The DEFENSE are bigots? This post and threads shows what this country is up against when it comes
kelliekat44
Aug 2013
#233
No--this was a defense exhibit, introduced by the defense in mitigation. This was not
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#246
Since Catherina's own links tell us that--and I mean, it took me all of 5 seconds to discern it,
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#249
I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you enlighten me as to some of what you've
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#255
Neoma, I respect you. So it is with respect that I suggest that you take a step back
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#261
I think it's wise for you to take your stated course. And I am not PMing Catherina. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#265
Apparently release of this photo is a smear of Manning to some. My pointing out that the release
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#203
Indeed--Manning's own defense thought to do so. Are you second-guessing the defense? nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#248
Any locker-room lawyers who can tell us if the military is immune to HIPAA requirements?
HereSince1628
Aug 2013
#17
I'm more concerned about how trans-related violence is alive and well in prison.
HereSince1628
Aug 2013
#33
Um--this was a defense exhibit, and I find your complaints about this puzzling.
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#38
Another iggy list? I actually like being on people's iggy lists--it means I get to reply to them
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#140
This thread definitely shows the danger of living in a sound-proof, self-congratulatory echo chamber
Number23
Aug 2013
#223
I think any user function that allows a DUer to have a thread like this by dint
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#226
Absolutely. Phrases like "hoisted with their own petard" were made for situations like this
Number23
Aug 2013
#229
Well, the reason the Hannah Bell troll (HiPointDem) was able to exist as long as 'she'
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#231
This accusation about OP is pure disgraceful and sick bullshit and you know it but did it anyway.
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#181
The defense doesn't really have much choice. It's not a defense I would have used, but
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#153
That is what I would think they were doing, exposing the ignorant bigotry that shamefully has been
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#220
I haven't read them yet but by all accounts his attorney is doing a marvelous job
Catherina
Aug 2013
#221
Yes, they have. Elsewhere in this thread (look for the Westie) I have posted a link
MADem
Aug 2013
#184
THis was a defense exhibit, released under FOIA--so complaining about its release is about as
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#32
I should think his DEFENSE attorneys got his permission before they used that exhibit. nt
MADem
Aug 2013
#123
Manning emailed the photo to his former supervisor, with a discussion of his gender identity issues
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#132
It's a rather interesting manifestation, is it not? Apparently, there's something in Manning's
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#150
From what I gather from the OP's subsequent posts, she appears to be completely unaware that she has
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#165
You know, years ago, it was considered defamation per se to say that someone was gay. Why? Because
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#177
You are an attorney? Then you should know that 'years ago' is today. In the vast majority of
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#237
You hate OP so much that you decided to smear her as a homophobe? Sick and disgraceful post.
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#182
See my #190. Why would the OP think this might make people hate him? What is the thinking process
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#193
The reality of wide-spread homophobia in the US, in and outside of the military?
redgreenandblue
Aug 2013
#194
That is simply not the reality anymore. Polling on Same sex marriage is now consistently favorable
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#195
We are talking about treatment of transgender here, not same sex marriadge. Try to stay on topic
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#212
LMAO, stay on topic? You're still trying to defend the OP by attacking other people! ROFLMAO
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#214
Good to know you can't defend your disgusting insinuations. Keep posting emotiocons, it
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#216
LOL! The OP whose contentions you cannot defend except by attacking other people?
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#218
Someone lost their alerting privileges for a day. Jury results went 0-6 to leave this alone.
Electric Monk
Aug 2013
#230
Another BS post and you know it. Transphobia is live and well in US and everywhere else in the world
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#201
You're defending an OP that contains wrong information and perpetuates negative stereotypes by
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#205
Your desire to smear OP as a bigot is disgusting, and you know it but keep repeating the same
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#209
I think the point is more of the fact that they released it as evidence of her mental instability.
Neoma
Aug 2013
#245
Well, it was released by the defense, i.e. Manning and her team. So if we are going to be outraged
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#251
Wait a minute--first Bradley Manning is being smeared by a picture, and now the OP
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#202
Why are you answering for the OP? Look, if Catherina feels there is something wrong with
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#217
His therapist testified in open court. He talked about his gender identity issue,
MADem
Aug 2013
#136
No problem--the original gist of the OP is that the defendant was being maligned, so it's
MADem
Aug 2013
#138
Thank you--I just pointed out that the OP is complaining about a DEFENSE EXHIBIT. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#31
If you dont understand ask the OP what her intent was. It was clear to me and it
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#267
I find your OP disengenous--This is a defense exhibit, and released under a FOIA request.....
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#29
I would never assume maliciousness when plain ignorance seems to be available as a defense. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#61
So really it is Gawker who is tossing the image around the net? Not the Army?
PowerToThePeople
Aug 2013
#52
You know why? Because sometimes you apologize when you've done nothing wrong because the other
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#141
Who??? The DEFENSE, who put this into evidence? Or the people who filed the FOIA that released it?
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#51
A lot of transgender women go to the military before ultimately accepting themselves
AZ Progressive
Aug 2013
#46
Guess he's in good company of 9/11 figurehead ex-Mayor Giuliani & Disney icon Julie Andrews
tomm2thumbs
Aug 2013
#48
You mean his defense attorney? Because had you read the thread, you would have realized this
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#64
You are the one plastering it Catherina. Another hoax. Will your clique call you on it?
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#72
Blame it on whoever made the FOIA request that released it...you know...the press,
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#73
Apparently that would be Manning's defense team, whoever filed the FOIA and gawker.com
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#67
Sure--until your lawyer enters the email and picture into evidence in a court of law, and
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#76
Deplorable, unprofessional, sleazy, intentionally cruel, not unlike his solitary confinement
99th_Monkey
Aug 2013
#79
Um--his defense attorney entered this into evidence. It was released under FOIA
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#83
still avoiding a full disclosure that the release was at the hands of the DEFENSE
Sheepshank
Aug 2013
#118
He exposed that and many war crimes. That's honorable. Covering them up is NOT n/t
Catherina
Aug 2013
#84
And if that's all he'd done, he wouldn't have been on trial. But as his apology demonstrated
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#85
Well, it would have been craploads easier for him had he just gone for whistleblower status under
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#93
I'm sure his defense would not want to bring that out as it would show cause for revenge. n/t
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#100
Whats wrong with the photo? Should Manning be ashamed of being transgender?
AZ Progressive
Aug 2013
#104
I debated... Then I saw it was all over the internet already and on LGBT websites
Catherina
Aug 2013
#107
lolol. it is public record. I'm glad you went back and corrected the OP
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#111
You don't feel chastised after posting such an intemperate OP that it had to be edited
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#148
Why is this "appalling?" Surely you don't think there's anything "wrong" with being transgender?
MADem
Aug 2013
#122
It was released pursuant to the scores of FOIA requests that the press, and Manning's supporters
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#143
Hear hear and kudos to msanthrope and others who righted this wrong.
great white snark
Aug 2013
#154
I'm gonna google 'quinoa' and 'Bradley Manning' and 'Wikileaks' and see who shows up
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#156
Should I post a list of Catherina's bogus threads? There is now an entire catalog. I'd post a map
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#192
"Should I post a list of Catherina's bogus threads?" Putting all that in one place might just
Number23
Aug 2013
#222
Would you mind explaining who you are calling haters? The OP is supportive of Manning.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#268
And how does that tie into this discussion? Or are you equating support of Manning
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#270
The original version of this OP condemned the army for releasing this picture, claiming
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#271
And that justifies disparaging the OP? Are you against all "unwarranted outrage" or
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#273
The OP was mis-characterized as a " fucking LGBT-phobe" and then disparaged for it.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#277
No. But the point is that you would disparage the OP and let the one that did make that
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#280
That doesnt fit. Looks like you are calling those supporting Manning as haters. Ironic. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#274
Sounds like a rationalization for ganging up on the OP. Her mistake didnt change her outrage for
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#276