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28. THANK YOU FOR LINKING THIS!!! I am happy to see the young man sees he was wrong

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:10 PM

Aug 2013

and in just what ways he was wrong. Here is another one:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/15/us/manning-apologizes-for-leaks-my-actions-hurt-people.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=US_MAF_20130814&_r=0

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"I'm sorry that I hurt the United States" Bradley Manning apologizes in court [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2013 OP

Where on earth does he get off accusing Bradley Manning of having "hurt people" jberryhill Aug 2013 #1

Don't be fooled! This apology came from a programmable animatronic look-alike! struggle4progress Aug 2013 #21

Area 51 is a myth. Figleafs are falling off statues in sympathy to reveal illicit peni. freshwest Aug 2013 #41

It is getting on in the year jberryhill Aug 2013 #80

Oh, I love Nat King Cole. Thanks! freshwest Aug 2013 #84

Wait until Cha Aug 2013 #38

Uh oh. bravenak Aug 2013 #2

...said the convict who endured psychological torture at the hands of our military derby378 Aug 2013 #3

Then why hasn't his lawyer claimed he was tortured? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #17

Why dont you just come out and tell us your point in lieu of making us guess with rhett o rick Aug 2013 #55

Oops! Didn't realize we were chatting too fast for you. Sorry. Here's a quick explanation, to help struggle4progress Aug 2013 #101

My question, which you failed to address was "Why dont you tell us your point?" rhett o rick Aug 2013 #141

Because the court is part of the institution that tortured him. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #72

It sounds like a strong young man to me. DevonRex Aug 2013 #62

And may his dreams still come true: freshwest Aug 2013 #86

You sound like someone who would applaud "1984"'s O'Brien AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #104

Who are you again? DevonRex Aug 2013 #108

Great substantive post! laundry_queen Aug 2013 #109

As substantive as a personal attack deserves, DevonRex Aug 2013 #111

LOL, like your posts AREN'T personal attacks? laundry_queen Aug 2013 #112

obviously, so can you G_j Aug 2013 #113

Don't bother. Saying you would like the torturer in 1984 is a clear personal attack and baiting. freshwest Aug 2013 #132

Thank you. DevonRex Aug 2013 #137

You'd have to had remembered the reference. He was a sadistic, deceitful, evil being, not you. freshwest Aug 2013 #144

He did when he released the thousands of diplomatic emails, including unredacted names pnwmom Aug 2013 #134

Bradley Manning 'sorry' for hurting US at Wikileaks trial struggle4progress Aug 2013 #4

Does the psychiatrist claim that all GLBTs have an identity disorder? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #75

This is not prosecution testimony, y'know: it's Manning's defense. Spin it as homophobic if struggle4progress Aug 2013 #85

Manning tells court he's "sorry" for U.S. secrets breach to WikiLeaks struggle4progress Aug 2013 #5

He wants a light sentence so he has to apologize to get one. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #31

Only the judge knows whether he sounds authentic or not. randome Aug 2013 #48

so the judge should disregard his apology? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #53

Manning said that if he could do it over, he would fight to change the system from bluestate10 Aug 2013 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #106

Awfully patronizing, don't you think? Not as if "the system" is so just and trustworthy... nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #135

He looks so gentle in the picture at the link. He's been taken advantage of by 1% shills. freshwest Aug 2013 #49

I think he was a confused kid who thought he was doing the right thing arely staircase Aug 2013 #58

Agreed on everything you said. I read one of s4p's earlier threads and followed the money. freshwest Aug 2013 #68

"Wikileaks pulled in tens of millions of dollars a month, but only gave a paltry sum to Manning's Number23 Aug 2013 #131

I gave the link on the $59K above; the figures pulled in before they were blocked was on a s4p. freshwest Aug 2013 #136

What is the evidence that Assange influenced Manning? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #77

Follow the money jberryhill Aug 2013 #91

Was it you or someone else who said that Assange did not provide much Wikileaks money JDPriestly Aug 2013 #139

Quite obviously... jberryhill Aug 2013 #140

Manning takes stand, apologizes for hurting U.S. struggle4progress Aug 2013 #6

Bradley Manning says sorry for leaks that 'hurt the United States' struggle4progress Aug 2013 #7

I love Big Brother PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #8

Well, everybody's different! I myself simply adore folk who make intelligent informative comments! struggle4progress Aug 2013 #22

I am glad you feel that way. Sometimes a very simple statement is very poignant. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #24

Room 101 usually does a number on folks. drokhole Aug 2013 #74

A Typical Day For PFC Bradley Manning at Fort Leavenworth (03 May 2011) struggle4progress Aug 2013 #93

Yes, he was coerced into apologizing: freshwest Aug 2013 #105

how long till the first post saying "the man" must have got to him? snooper2 Aug 2013 #9

Looks like Peacetrain Aug 2013 #12

LOL snooper2 Aug 2013 #14

..... Peacetrain Aug 2013 #16

accusation has already been made. "They broke him" Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #30

Bradley Manning Defense Cites Rough Childhood, Gender Disorder struggle4progress Aug 2013 #10

Because the Defense highlighted this we must email Hagel DevonRex Aug 2013 #59

He basically blames his actions on not being able to handle being gay. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #71

It's his own theory and the defense has been pursuing it for some time struggle4progress Aug 2013 #92

I think you're misreading it. Being gay is NOT a gender disorder. freshwest Aug 2013 #130

I agree. Being gay is not a gender disorder. That is why I am troubled by his defense's argument. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #147

I'm going with what his attorney Coombs called it. Let me look up this Worsely quote. He's wrong. freshwest Aug 2013 #148

Worsley is a psychologist. He was called by the defense as their witness. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #149

How much did they torture him LittleBlue Aug 2013 #11

If he'd been tortured, why wouldn't his lawyer raise the issue? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #18

ignorance is bliss PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #23

When did his lawyer raise the issue? jberryhill Aug 2013 #26

Yawn. ACLU...... Historic NY Aug 2013 #32

military code is different than you and me as regular old citizens Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #39

Psychologist testifies Manning was isolated and ignored in Iraq struggle4progress Aug 2013 #13

Therapists Explore Manning's Idealism struggle4progress Aug 2013 #15

I struggle2getthroughthisthread Atman Aug 2013 #19

Really? I tried to provide links giving some overview of today's proceedings, but if struggle4progress Aug 2013 #35

...heh... progressoid Aug 2013 #70

LOL!! laundry_queen Aug 2013 #110

I take him at his word. BenzoDia Aug 2013 #20

So do I, and I respect him for these words. I believe he cares deeply about people. freshwest Aug 2013 #50

"Working within the system", would have made him a whistle blower.... Historic NY Aug 2013 #25

I hope they show mercy. 5 years minus time served. arely staircase Aug 2013 #27

Ten years would be about right. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #29

like I said, I'd go five minus the two served arely staircase Aug 2013 #61

+1,000. freshwest Aug 2013 #51

THANK YOU FOR LINKING THIS!!! I am happy to see the young man sees he was wrong Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #28

Thanks, that is a very sympathetic article. It appears his army superiors are coming to his aid. freshwest Aug 2013 #52

Looks like The Man got to him! Rex Aug 2013 #33

You certainly have an ... um ... inflated view of the power of internet posters! struggle4progress Aug 2013 #88

Sorry I don't reply to spam. Rex Aug 2013 #90

Just for you: struggle4progress Aug 2013 #94

But I will reply to MP clips! Rex Aug 2013 #95

KICKED and RECOMMENDED. If this gets 20 recs I'll be surprised Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #34

It's not the quantity of who recs it.. Cha Aug 2013 #40

So yours doesn't count ? bahrbearian Aug 2013 #81

YAY, Bradley Manning! Cha Aug 2013 #83

The real Manning disappears behind his symbolic value in certain narratives struggle4progress Aug 2013 #47

Wow, what you said: freshwest Aug 2013 #54

Personally I hope they show him mercy. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #36

... alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #37

Good! Wow.. someone standing up and willing to pay the price for Cha Aug 2013 #42

Real people do, Cha. We don't have the rich and famous to give us cover. Ditto thnx to s4p. freshwest Aug 2013 #98

You're right, fresh. So many personal insults and attacks hurled at s4Progress Cha Aug 2013 #99

I'm happy he released the "Collateral Murder" video. Dash87 Aug 2013 #43

Yep. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #44

The one which Assange admitted actually shows people with weapons including RPGs being fired on stevenleser Aug 2013 #46

In the stress of a war zone, I suspect those who have hammers see nails. As for the rest of it, freshwest Aug 2013 #60

I agree generally about hammers/nails, but in this case, they did see nails. stevenleser Aug 2013 #63

I'm sure they did see weapons. And did what they did as a matter of course. I found, though, as freshwest Aug 2013 #73

Hmm. Thanks Steve. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #64

They were body guards. Wasn't that "RPG" a camera? Dash87 Aug 2013 #65

Both. One of the suspected RPGs was a camera, one was an RPG.Another person in the crowd had an AK47 stevenleser Aug 2013 #66

Are AK 47's illegal? In the US and Iraq? bahrbearian Aug 2013 #82

I don't know. Do Iraqi's eat Ravioli? I've wondered that myself. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #122

The worst part of the video is the part nobody is addressing- Dash87 Aug 2013 #87

It has been addressed multiple times. See the wiki I referenced in #123 stevenleser Aug 2013 #125

The wiki article doesn't provide justification for the van attack. Dash87 Aug 2013 #138

No, there was at least one real RPG that was loaded. Some folks say two. stevenleser Aug 2013 #123

It does not matter if they had RPGs PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #126

If we are going to say facts don't matter, its not much of a conversation. The illegality of the stevenleser Aug 2013 #128

For me that video shows the dissasterous effects of the invasion PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #129

Check his eyes. Did he blink out the word "torture" using morse code? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #45

Reminds me of Jose Padilla. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #56

You really want to compare Bradley Manning with a killer like Padilla? Oh--and your expert msanthrope Aug 2013 #89

This young man is much stronger than he knows. DevonRex Aug 2013 #57

The difference between him and Snowden is like night and day. Rex Aug 2013 #97

This reminds me of the guy who apologies after dick cheney shots him..... midnight Aug 2013 #67

And just like Winston, he loved Big Brother! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #69

A troubled young person, raised by an alcoholic mother, adrift msanthrope Aug 2013 #78

These statements show Mannings character Renew Deal Aug 2013 #79

No comparison that I can see. One calls for old people to get off their asses and leave hospitals, freshwest Aug 2013 #96

Why do you hate whistleblowers and what kind of progress RU struggling 4? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #100

... Let me give you a word of the philosophy of reform. The whole history of the progress of human struggle4progress Aug 2013 #102

Nice words. Bonobo Aug 2013 #103

I don't regard those three as whistle-blowers. Assange specialized in mass-dumping of documents struggle4progress Aug 2013 #114

So, for you, a whistleblower should be defined by what they DON'T release, not by what they do? Bonobo Aug 2013 #117

huh? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #119

Really? That was confusing for you? Bonobo Aug 2013 #123

"Here's hundreds of thousands of documents I haven't read" isn't whistle-blowing struggle4progress Aug 2013 #143

Enough to know that he exposed war crimes. Bonobo Aug 2013 #145

oh jeez G_j Aug 2013 #116

Like me or not, you should take Douglass very seriously: not only is he one of the finest struggle4progress Aug 2013 #118

no kidding G_j Aug 2013 #120

If everyone cared about what people thought of them, we wouldn't have nearly as many famous people AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #107

Which is why I snickered at you when you attacked me above. DevonRex Aug 2013 #115

There are FIVE lights Paulie Aug 2013 #121

Very moving...he has dealt with incredible hardship, deserves mercy and I hope he receives it BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #127

It's creepy to see all the people here who seemed almost sexually aroused by talk of persecuting Marr Aug 2013 #133

*snort* Oakenshield Aug 2013 #146

No apology for the innocent people killed by the military helicopter. Lint Head Aug 2013 #142