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cali

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9. Exactly. That is the point of my op.

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:17 PM

Aug 2013

Russia's ramping up of homophobia is despicable. So is using that in order to vilify Snowden. And that's been going on like crazy.

It is disgusting.

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Russia isn't even close to being the most homophobic country. [View all] cali Aug 2013 OP

Does Russia need defending on LGBT rights? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #1

Can you read? With any comprehension? cali Aug 2013 #2

I'll do it for you. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #5

why thank you. I do appreciate being saved a head banging. cali Aug 2013 #6

What "hypocrisy"? Who is claiming that Russia is the "most homophobic country"? ProSense Aug 2013 #11

Apparently, only the MOST homophobic country can be criticized... SidDithers Aug 2013 #21

get with it, sid arely staircase Aug 2013 #25

Wait, I thought Evo Morales was Harriet Tubman... SidDithers Aug 2013 #32

Of Course He's Paul Revere...just listen to this source: KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #107

BINGO! CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #68

Aaaand there's the only reason any of you give a shit about LGBT people in Russia Scootaloo Aug 2013 #105

I absolutely agree with you Vanje Aug 2013 #54

I know how you feel. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #88

I have to agree with you on this one. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #78

Of course your not defending Russia. Life Long Dem Aug 2013 #44

Well, at least now you know that... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #77

so Snowden should go to Jamaica and call it great for human rights? Whisp Aug 2013 #3

Hypocrisy. thanks for illustrating it so well. cali Aug 2013 #10

So where did Snowden proclaim Russia is great for human rights? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #14

where? in Russia. arely staircase Aug 2013 #26

Here: Whisp Aug 2013 #45

Equating one human rights violation to all human rights violations is simply false. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #49

nothing Snowden talks about is clear... Whisp Aug 2013 #51

That's a nice distraction, so what about the substance of the information he released? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #53

I am waiting for substance... Whisp Aug 2013 #55

That's not really the substance of the information he released... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #57

so it doesn't matter to you that he is a fabricator Whisp Aug 2013 #58

Well, that's OK, then, eh? MineralMan Aug 2013 #4

no. And you know I said no such thing- which makes your comment, particularly despicable. cali Aug 2013 #8

Honestly a lot of the sudden faux outrage has nothing to do with Russia's policy that has been AppleBottom Aug 2013 #7

Exactly. That is the point of my op. cali Aug 2013 #9

I'd say your attempt to downplay it is disgusting. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #13

I'm not attempting to downplay anything- and you know that. cali Aug 2013 #15

"You and your ilk". I don't think I've responded to one thread about Russia/Homophobia/Snowden. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #18

You have commented on many Snowden/Russia threads, and up to morningfog Aug 2013 #96

Pointing out a false equivalancey is not downplaying anything AppleBottom Aug 2013 #16

Um, no. Cali is seeking attention by starting a thread w/a bogus assertion. There aren't that many KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19

Here you go AppleBottom Aug 2013 #20

thanks for the publicity nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #27

You're welcome AppleBottom Aug 2013 #43

Really? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #30

That is one horrific news story. I cringed just reading the thread title. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #33

Sorry if you thought my post was aimed at you theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #36

Huh?! I've never visited those forums AppleBottom Aug 2013 #35

You never visit the Late Breaking News forum? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #37

No, sorry my bad, I thought you were talking about a different forum AppleBottom Aug 2013 #41

I understand... theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #66

Oh gawd, I was just about to post that tragic story Catherina Aug 2013 #87

here is what hypocrisy looks like arely staircase Aug 2013 #70

This is false. Russia's been increasing the homophobic rhetoric. joshcryer Aug 2013 #95

Well, Jamaica isn't hosting Olympics are they? FURTHERMORE, Russia's homophobic laws KittyWampus Aug 2013 #12

Russia's anti gay laws are in the news because sufrommich Aug 2013 #17

What bought it to the fore dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #22

you won't catch me in any of them nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #23

Indeed. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #24

Thanks, cali. Russia is still a conservative hatehole, but it is certainly not unique Zorra Aug 2013 #28

"Come on, it's only jail. It's not like they're being killed!" name not needed Aug 2013 #29

+1000000000 n/t LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #39

I incorrectly alerted on your post! My apologies! When I read it I didn't see RKP5637 Aug 2013 #50

actually they're not even being jailed much. similar provincial laws in 10 regions resulted in HiPointDem Aug 2013 #64

Holy sheep dip batman Egnever Aug 2013 #109

"There have been six cases in which individuals have been tried for “propaganda” under regional laws HiPointDem Aug 2013 #110

I think maybe some are searching for any new angle to bash Snowden. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #31

Of course the deniers will never grasp the fact that Snowden only intended to transfer flights in AppleBottom Aug 2013 #38

It's sickening to me that people's opinions about gay persecution in LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #47

You have a really good point there n/t War Horse Aug 2013 #62

I have no problem condemning Russia for its homophobia and recent laws cali Aug 2013 #71

I hear gay persecution in Russia is very bad. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #91

Agreed completely. morningfog Aug 2013 #97

I don't think anyone is suggesting it is unique, cali. enlightenment Aug 2013 #34

there is a boycott active against Jamaican products mitchtv Aug 2013 #40

Their Tourist Board should adopt that as their slogan. arely staircase Aug 2013 #42

Actually, Virginia needs a new slogan, too theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #63

i can multitask--lets condemm both russia and jamaica dembotoz Aug 2013 #46

no, it's not. my point is that people are being dishonest with their very selective outrage. cali Aug 2013 #48

i can go along with that--asshole countries come in all shapes and sizes dembotoz Aug 2013 #56

"The Iranian government alone has put to death an estimated 4,000 homosexuals..... Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #52

thank you for the list mitchtv Aug 2013 #59

Now you're defending Russia on LGBT rights? michigandem58 Aug 2013 #60

straw. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #65

Suppressing negative information about Russia again. Pravda. DevonRex Aug 2013 #82

Russian homophobia did not begin just recently - it became an issue just recently Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #61

Homophobia is evil and must loudly be proclaimed it is evil. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #67

Hardly the only country to recently put hateful laws against GLBT folks into effect cali Aug 2013 #69

Well the religion room and the LGBT room have been documenting anti-lgbt activities of many nations. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #72

Yep theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #79

And if the Snowden affair helps bring light to the fact that LGBT people are suffering in Russia I hrmjustin Aug 2013 #80

There's a common thread here RZM Aug 2013 #73

Homosexuality is natural throughout the world, sufrommich Aug 2013 #74

That's correct RZM Aug 2013 #84

I could care less about Snowden LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #75

It's the most homophobic country that's hosted an Olympics this century. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #76

So it's ok that Russia has a law to throw LGBTs in jail and anybody else DevonRex Aug 2013 #81

Although I have yet to see any post claiming Russia as the most homophobic ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #83

Russia is better than Jamaica? Probably better than Iran and the Vatican. Low standard. n/t pampango Aug 2013 #85

The govt. has earned capital with its progressive stance on LGBT rights. napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #86

We shouldn't have the Olympics any of those places either gollygee Aug 2013 #89

it's because Russia is hosting the Olympics , China got a lot of attention JI7 Aug 2013 #90

Somebody's making arguments for political reasons alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #92

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #93

LGBT-phobia is definitely used by Putin and his right wing to suppress dissent. joshcryer Aug 2013 #94

Absolutely. No one should get a pass. morningfog Aug 2013 #98

I would agree, to an extent. joshcryer Aug 2013 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #99

Doesn't surprise me an anti-Libya Revolutionary would be against LGBT. joshcryer Aug 2013 #101

You're not getting it Creideiki Aug 2013 #102

I have a feeling that poster was previously Fool Count. joshcryer Aug 2013 #108

And the Homophobia Apologist Award goes to... Creideiki Aug 2013 #100

The problem with Russia is that it's one of the largest nations on earth. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #104

was anyone pretending that russia is unique? madrchsod Aug 2013 #106

Just stop, cali MNBrewer Aug 2013 #111

+1. Pab had it right about Putin starting a "New" holocaust. DevonRex Aug 2013 #112

it may be the largest, most powerful/visible homophobic country spanone Aug 2013 #113

True, but Jamaica, Uganda, etc. aren't G-8 countries. KamaAina Aug 2013 #114