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iamthebandfanman

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46. how dare you!

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:36 AM

Aug 2013

everyone knows Russia is the free-est greatest country of all time!

I mean, they aren't all secretive about their misdoings and hateful actions.. its right out in the open for everyone to see

apparently people love honesty more than they do the knowledge of the history of Russia and its current political state of being (fascist corporatists just like the Chinese are now) and are willing to forgive any current or past brutal actions because it fits whatever political statement they are currently trying to make about our government.

we have A LOT of problems here at home, that's without a doubt.. but to say Russia or about 50% of other nations are 'more free' or a better place to live.. is just well.. nuts.

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If I were me in Russia [View all] arely staircase Aug 2013 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #1

? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #4

As do you, homonyms HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #22

I think you mean "fare", not "fair". panader0 Aug 2013 #49

That's what I was referring to in my comment HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #51

Jesus Christ I was asking a simple question & it was 3 am giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #93

I think you are mistaken. They do have fairs in Russia, though they may be called madinmaryland Aug 2013 #78

(self delete) pnwmom Aug 2013 #97

yeah but you (and your family) would be safe from execution without trial by american drones nt msongs Aug 2013 #2

You'd just be beaten to death in Butyrka. And convicted postmortem. DevonRex Aug 2013 #84

The US forced down the plane of an elected head of state MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #5

my brothers and sisters are beaten and jailed in Mr. snowden's land of choice arely staircase Aug 2013 #7

What choice does he have? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8

many more choices than my russian brothers and sisters arely staircase Aug 2013 #9

Has he endorsed Russia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #10

it's 100% the fault of the us that snowden got stuck in russia. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #30

he chose russia. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #31

no. he didn't. you're so obvious. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #38

indeed. I see people using the homophobia in Russia to advance their argument that cali Aug 2013 #55

No one made him break the law. That's on him. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #42

it's 100% the fault of the US snowden is stranded in russia. harriet tubman broke the law too, HiPointDem Aug 2013 #43

he's harriet tubman now? arely staircase Aug 2013 #64

not about what he is; about what your claim is. hogwash. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #83

I can't ignore this Just Saying Aug 2013 #36

Who said the US regularly does those things? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #48

+1 nt MADem Aug 2013 #54

Not to mention that the "US forced down a head of state's plane" is not corroborated in a single Number23 Aug 2013 #91

I honestly don't know how to deal with the us vs. them thing around here. Just Saying Aug 2013 #95

"The US" did no such thing. That's just a silly thing to say. MADem Aug 2013 #52

Oh right. Like Manning was executed. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #98

He was tortured, according to the UN.nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #99

He was also in a military prison, which would never happen to Snowden. pnwmom Aug 2013 #100

So torture can only happen in military prison? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #101

What other US leakers have claimed torture? nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #104

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #6

Well there is a country worse than Russia on gay rights, if that's what your talking about. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #11

I am sure he would have gone there had they been willing nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #12

How do you feel about Obama's exploits in Saudi Arabia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #13

oh I shouldn't criticize russia until saudi arabia straightens up? arely staircase Aug 2013 #15

Where did I say that you shouldn't criticize Russia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #18

Criticize Russia, they deserve it. morningfog Aug 2013 #110

Look sorry limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #16

boo fucking hoo arely staircase Aug 2013 #17

So I'm trying to understand what you're upset about? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #20

so apparently it's more about snowden than it is about your brothers & sisters being oppressed. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #33

What?! Oakenshield Aug 2013 #47

when Obama defects to Saudi Arabia we'll talk nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #69

he didn't 'defect,' but your use of cold war terminology is interesting. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #85

thanks nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #87

bingo Enrique Aug 2013 #86

Yeah Russia's policies are all Snowdens fault... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #19

just his choice arely staircase Aug 2013 #21

Uhhuh? And why are you upset at Snowden for this it is the government persecuting him that revoked AppleBottom Aug 2013 #23

he picked his side arely staircase Aug 2013 #24

Are you seriously saying that because Snowden got stranded in Russia he is anti-gay or something? limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #25

maybe he and putin and anita bryant can have lunch arely staircase Aug 2013 #27

Wow you're losing it dude, read my post below.... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #32

welcome to DU arely staircase Aug 2013 #35

You're also free to be listened to whether you like it or not. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #39

you are known by the company you keep arely staircase Aug 2013 #50

Ahh I see what do you think about Obama hanging out with middle east leaders then. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #59

has he defected to any of them? arely staircase Aug 2013 #60

I notice that you refuse acknowledge the facts AppleBottom Aug 2013 #61

Snowden is free to return to the United States anytime he wants. arely staircase Aug 2013 #63

Thanks for revealing your false arguement, it is about Snowden and Nothing to do with AppleBottom Aug 2013 #65

omg you are so right! arely staircase Aug 2013 #67

What does that even mean?! AppleBottom Aug 2013 #26

it's not his job to understand. his job is to catapult the anti-snowden talking points. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #37

I hope that was a trial balloon and not a TP that they're actually going to run with, it's horrible. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #41

Damn that is warped. Thats like a Freeperville statement Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #28

He didn't have a choice... you wanted him to willingly come back here? davidn3600 Aug 2013 #34

Snowden considers Russia more human rights orientated than the U.S. Whisp Aug 2013 #62

Have you compared incarceration rates between the RF and the US? I think you might HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #68

That is a very excellent point. Why aren't there as many threads on that here as on Snowden Whisp Aug 2013 #77

Where does Snowden make that statement? Either you have proof or that's a LIE. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #70

Pathetic. Read, Bottom, read: Whisp Aug 2013 #72

Oh for goodnes sakes. Applauding Russia's decision to grant him the right of asylum AppleBottom Aug 2013 #75

Whatever you say, Apple... Whisp Aug 2013 #76

No it is not but it is interesting he went to a place that is seeking to curb civil rights. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #88

if I lived in the USA the government would lie to me and Swagman Aug 2013 #29

I'd still be at the airport. bravenak Aug 2013 #40

Aren't you you all the time? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #44

All hail st snowden .. the man who is so confused he thinks Russia is the "FIRST".. I tell ya Cha Aug 2013 #45

thanks cha nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #105

how dare you! iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #46

I'm sorry, but this is getting ridiculous. cali Aug 2013 #53

ok, excuse me. asylum. arely staircase Aug 2013 #56

Yes. And not by any means his first choice. cali Aug 2013 #57

Snowden made all sorts of decisions Sheepshank Aug 2013 #58

funny how every whistle blower from Ellsberg to Tamm considers Snowden a whistle blower cali Aug 2013 #82

He's also no patriot Sheepshank Aug 2013 #96

I'll defer on that one. I don't care much if he's a patriot or the devil cali Aug 2013 #109

Did you post one single thread about homophobia in the Russian Federation BEFORE HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #66

That would be hard since the latest and most horrific law was passed a week after Snowden's stevenleser Aug 2013 #94

Poor widdle snowden. Snowden smears himself. Cha Aug 2013 #106

If your alternative was to spend life in solitary confinement LittleBlue Aug 2013 #71

red herring nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #73

Not at all LittleBlue Aug 2013 #74

Since when does he face life in prison (and solitary at that)? arely staircase Aug 2013 #90

That is a realistic point. He really had no choice in the end if he wanted freedom, but hrmjustin Aug 2013 #79

I'm convinced that there pretty much are no "good guys" here. Not Snowden, not Obama, nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #92

Do you think its their religion that causes their disgusting attitude toward gays? The Link Aug 2013 #80

Unfortunately in many cases yes. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #81

It is indeed heroic of him to toady to Russian bigots. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #89

I am always me in Russia Riftaxe Aug 2013 #102

I would have to pretend to be someone else. arely staircase Aug 2013 #112

Interesting argument Scootaloo Aug 2013 #103

I doubt Russia was his choice. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #107

I'm guessing you'd hate Russia and Snowden even if Russia was progressive on gay rights. nt redgreenandblue Aug 2013 #108

No one is asking you to "hail" Snowden. morningfog Aug 2013 #111

If I were me in Texas snooper2 Aug 2013 #113