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arely staircase

(12,482 posts) Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:07 AM Aug 2013

If I were me in Russia [View all]

I would probably be arrested.

I would certainly not be allowed to teach children.

All hail Snowden, the man who seeks the protection of those who think I am a subhuman.

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If I were me in Russia [View all] arely staircase Aug 2013 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #1

? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #3

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As do you, homonyms HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #14

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I think you mean "fare", not "fair". panader0 Aug 2013 #49

That's what I was referring to in my comment HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #51

Jesus Christ I was asking a simple question & it was 3 am giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #93

I think you are mistaken. They do have fairs in Russia, though they may be called madinmaryland Aug 2013 #78

(self delete) pnwmom Aug 2013 #97

yeah but you (and your family) would be safe from execution without trial by american drones nt msongs Aug 2013 #2

You'd just be beaten to death in Butyrka. And convicted postmortem. DevonRex Aug 2013 #84

The US forced down the plane of an elected head of state MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #5

my brothers and sisters are beaten and jailed in Mr. snowden's land of choice arely staircase Aug 2013 #7

What choice does he have? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8

many more choices than my russian brothers and sisters arely staircase Aug 2013 #9

Has he endorsed Russia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #10

it's 100% the fault of the us that snowden got stuck in russia. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #30

he chose russia. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #31

no. he didn't. you're so obvious. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #38

indeed. I see people using the homophobia in Russia to advance their argument that cali Aug 2013 #55

No one made him break the law. That's on him. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #42

it's 100% the fault of the US snowden is stranded in russia. harriet tubman broke the law too, HiPointDem Aug 2013 #43

he's harriet tubman now? arely staircase Aug 2013 #64

not about what he is; about what your claim is. hogwash. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #83

I can't ignore this Just Saying Aug 2013 #36

Who said the US regularly does those things? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #48

+1 nt MADem Aug 2013 #54

Not to mention that the "US forced down a head of state's plane" is not corroborated in a single Number23 Aug 2013 #91

I honestly don't know how to deal with the us vs. them thing around here. Just Saying Aug 2013 #95

"The US" did no such thing. That's just a silly thing to say. MADem Aug 2013 #52

Oh right. Like Manning was executed. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #98

He was tortured, according to the UN.nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #99

He was also in a military prison, which would never happen to Snowden. pnwmom Aug 2013 #100

So torture can only happen in military prison? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #101

What other US leakers have claimed torture? nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #104

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #6

Well there is a country worse than Russia on gay rights, if that's what your talking about. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #11

I am sure he would have gone there had they been willing nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #12

How do you feel about Obama's exploits in Saudi Arabia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #13

oh I shouldn't criticize russia until saudi arabia straightens up? arely staircase Aug 2013 #15

Where did I say that you shouldn't criticize Russia? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #18

Criticize Russia, they deserve it. morningfog Aug 2013 #110

Look sorry limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #16

boo fucking hoo arely staircase Aug 2013 #17

So I'm trying to understand what you're upset about? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #20

so apparently it's more about snowden than it is about your brothers & sisters being oppressed. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #33

What?! Oakenshield Aug 2013 #47

when Obama defects to Saudi Arabia we'll talk nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #69

he didn't 'defect,' but your use of cold war terminology is interesting. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #85

thanks nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #87

bingo Enrique Aug 2013 #86

Yeah Russia's policies are all Snowdens fault... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #19

just his choice arely staircase Aug 2013 #21

Uhhuh? And why are you upset at Snowden for this it is the government persecuting him that revoked AppleBottom Aug 2013 #23

he picked his side arely staircase Aug 2013 #24

Are you seriously saying that because Snowden got stranded in Russia he is anti-gay or something? limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #25

maybe he and putin and anita bryant can have lunch arely staircase Aug 2013 #27

Wow you're losing it dude, read my post below.... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #32

welcome to DU arely staircase Aug 2013 #35

You're also free to be listened to whether you like it or not. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #39

you are known by the company you keep arely staircase Aug 2013 #50

Ahh I see what do you think about Obama hanging out with middle east leaders then. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #59

has he defected to any of them? arely staircase Aug 2013 #60

I notice that you refuse acknowledge the facts AppleBottom Aug 2013 #61

Snowden is free to return to the United States anytime he wants. arely staircase Aug 2013 #63

Thanks for revealing your false arguement, it is about Snowden and Nothing to do with AppleBottom Aug 2013 #65

omg you are so right! arely staircase Aug 2013 #67

What does that even mean?! AppleBottom Aug 2013 #26

it's not his job to understand. his job is to catapult the anti-snowden talking points. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #37

I hope that was a trial balloon and not a TP that they're actually going to run with, it's horrible. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #41

Damn that is warped. Thats like a Freeperville statement Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #28

He didn't have a choice... you wanted him to willingly come back here? davidn3600 Aug 2013 #34

Snowden considers Russia more human rights orientated than the U.S. Whisp Aug 2013 #62

Have you compared incarceration rates between the RF and the US? I think you might HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #68

That is a very excellent point. Why aren't there as many threads on that here as on Snowden Whisp Aug 2013 #77

Where does Snowden make that statement? Either you have proof or that's a LIE. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #70

Pathetic. Read, Bottom, read: Whisp Aug 2013 #72

Oh for goodnes sakes. Applauding Russia's decision to grant him the right of asylum AppleBottom Aug 2013 #75

Whatever you say, Apple... Whisp Aug 2013 #76

No it is not but it is interesting he went to a place that is seeking to curb civil rights. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #88

if I lived in the USA the government would lie to me and Swagman Aug 2013 #29

I'd still be at the airport. bravenak Aug 2013 #40

Aren't you you all the time? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #44

All hail st snowden .. the man who is so confused he thinks Russia is the "FIRST".. I tell ya Cha Aug 2013 #45

thanks cha nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #105

how dare you! iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #46

I'm sorry, but this is getting ridiculous. cali Aug 2013 #53

ok, excuse me. asylum. arely staircase Aug 2013 #56

Yes. And not by any means his first choice. cali Aug 2013 #57

Snowden made all sorts of decisions Sheepshank Aug 2013 #58

funny how every whistle blower from Ellsberg to Tamm considers Snowden a whistle blower cali Aug 2013 #82

He's also no patriot Sheepshank Aug 2013 #96

I'll defer on that one. I don't care much if he's a patriot or the devil cali Aug 2013 #109

Did you post one single thread about homophobia in the Russian Federation BEFORE HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #66

That would be hard since the latest and most horrific law was passed a week after Snowden's stevenleser Aug 2013 #94

Poor widdle snowden. Snowden smears himself. Cha Aug 2013 #106

If your alternative was to spend life in solitary confinement LittleBlue Aug 2013 #71

red herring nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #73

Not at all LittleBlue Aug 2013 #74

Since when does he face life in prison (and solitary at that)? arely staircase Aug 2013 #90

That is a realistic point. He really had no choice in the end if he wanted freedom, but hrmjustin Aug 2013 #79

I'm convinced that there pretty much are no "good guys" here. Not Snowden, not Obama, nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #92

Do you think its their religion that causes their disgusting attitude toward gays? The Link Aug 2013 #80

Unfortunately in many cases yes. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #81

It is indeed heroic of him to toady to Russian bigots. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #89

I am always me in Russia Riftaxe Aug 2013 #102

I would have to pretend to be someone else. arely staircase Aug 2013 #112

Interesting argument Scootaloo Aug 2013 #103

I doubt Russia was his choice. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #107

I'm guessing you'd hate Russia and Snowden even if Russia was progressive on gay rights. nt redgreenandblue Aug 2013 #108

No one is asking you to "hail" Snowden. morningfog Aug 2013 #111

If I were me in Texas snooper2 Aug 2013 #113