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TM99

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20. Oh grow up.

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:07 PM

Aug 2013

I didn't whine.

I am not screaming or posting hyperbole.

Obama has broken so many campaign promises and even post-election promises. Why should I instantly take his word for it that he now suddenly wants complete transparency with the NSA?

How about he finally admits that the reason he is seeking Snowden IS because what Snowden revealed is truth. How about he admits that the surveillance state has gone too far in the 'War on Terror'. How about he discusses why he has persecuted and prosecuted more whistle-blowers during his administration than in several previous to his.

Is that serious enough for you?

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How many times has he said the word "constitution", does anyo know? Just curios. Flame away if you [View all] silvershadow Aug 2013 OP

"Bully Pulpit", "Pretty Speech", "Bully Pulpit", "Pretty Speech" !! JoePhilly Aug 2013 #1

Setting up a propaganda website TM99 Aug 2013 #2

Thanks for proving my point so quickly. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #5

Oh grow up. TM99 Aug 2013 #20

"setting up a propoganda website" = hyperbole ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #21

Obviously you are not TM99 Aug 2013 #34

I'm with you on that website he mentioned. It was my first thought. My next thought was I really am silvershadow Aug 2013 #7

I pretty much have lost my hope for change. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #31

I'm to the point where I guess I need to be the change by running for office. At least if I lost, I silvershadow Aug 2013 #33

That is ridiculous. If he says he will stop this programs and does so we will be CHEERING!!! dkf Aug 2013 #4

No, you'll say he's lying. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #6

Lol I wouldn't accuse him of lying yet. That's YOUR take on him. dkf Aug 2013 #9

Actually its my take on ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #16

Which topic? And did you notice, too, that he only touched on the phone records and moved on, as if silvershadow Aug 2013 #8

Lot's of hyperbole in there ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #11

Well, for starters, I can't wrap my head around the idea of secret courts, operating completely out silvershadow Aug 2013 #13

Ok, let's discuss the secret court ... do you know when it was created? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #15

Well, then, apparently no one has yet brought a strong enough case, but I will be shocked if they silvershadow Aug 2013 #22

That doesn't mean "that they "own" the data" phleshdef Aug 2013 #24

Yeah, I know. That's why I say they will pay a heavy price now. Because I don't care for that and silvershadow Aug 2013 #27

We just don't live in a society where complete privacy is a realistic option anymore. phleshdef Aug 2013 #30

lol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #35

They think he's supposed to kowtow to every demand. millennialmax Aug 2013 #10

Yes, that's exactly the attitude that reeks from this government now, both parties. woo me with science Aug 2013 #18

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #32

Because we don't trust him LittleBlue Aug 2013 #17

You sound like one of the folks who thinks the President is JoePhilly Aug 2013 #19

It's becoming pretty clear all they want to do is grouse treestar Aug 2013 #29

Did you expect candidate Obama to show up at the podium? boomer55 Aug 2013 #3

Flame!! LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #12

:( Sorry. silvershadow Aug 2013 #14

It's manipulative horseshit for public consumption. woo me with science Aug 2013 #23

I'm sorry, I was too busy crying and typing. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #25

Obama Weasle Words. 99Forever Aug 2013 #26

He thinks it is constitutional, so that is obvious to him treestar Aug 2013 #28