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In reply to the discussion: Report Indicates Snowden/Greenwald Lied About Key Claims [View all]DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)55. Major logic fail Manny
Calling out something as a lie needs to have proof.. where is your facts that they lied. You going is circles saying we should just believe you.
Very poor reporting of a story we don't have all the details on.
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So you're using the claims of a team of admitted fantastical liars, who even lied to Congress,
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#1
So you're dismissing what he promised to prove that he didn't make a false claim
ProSense
Aug 2013
#33
I am convinced I have described him accurately. I have nothing but my opinion on that.
randome
Aug 2013
#112
So that means you just believe anybody that says something disparaging against the NSA?
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2013
#50
'Direct access', while not a lie, was certainly a whopper of deliberate misdirection.
randome
Aug 2013
#56
Yes, it has become a major flaw here on DU -- people become unhinged and just make up facts.
DontTreadOnMe
Aug 2013
#45
Trust the govt agency that outsources to Carlyle Group-owned, PNAC-led, Booz Allen Hamilton instead.
OnyxCollie
Aug 2013
#21
Because Snowden's documents have forced the NSA to admit that they've lied, lied, lied
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#30
what I don't believe is just about anything you have to say on the subject.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#32
Fine, and I didn't write the WaPo piece. Yet you're dismissing it and attempting to deflect. n/t
ProSense
Aug 2013
#39
Clearly, implying that someone is a paid shill is a good argument for Greenwald/Snowden fans, but
ProSense
Aug 2013
#58
He is getting paid, he is a Libertarian and agrees with Paul with many things, and he is anti-Obama.
Whisp
Aug 2013
#218
I think Skinner says it best when he refers to "This whole who-is-the-paid-shill witch hunt.."
Cha
Aug 2013
#258
If HTTP is not a plurality it is probably because FTP and TFTP outweigh it due to downloads
whttevrr
Aug 2013
#90
Hilarious how the "don't shoot the messenger" crowds first response to this OP is
JaneyVee
Aug 2013
#23
Yes, the NSA uses software in the course of their jobs. Who could have foreseen that?
randome
Aug 2013
#49
And with that software it takes almost no effort to see in real time what is passing through
whttevrr
Aug 2013
#61
Unless someone has evidence that software is used on domestic data, you are assuming too much.
randome
Aug 2013
#69
LOL, let me get this straight. So the NSA has stopped denying that they're conducting blanket
Marr
Aug 2013
#42
I don't think it is salary in a monetary sense. I think it is a salary of psyche.
whttevrr
Aug 2013
#103
Say... as of today, are Snowden's documents officially Old News™, Completely False™, or
Marr
Aug 2013
#57
I don't think you've done a thorough enough background check of this blogger.
AppleBottom
Aug 2013
#249
How much do you want to bet that Greenwald has documents that explain this very process...
randome
Aug 2013
#80
OMG you and the Kos poster are completely clueless about what Snowden means by "authorities".
dkf
Aug 2013
#96
Do you know what he means by "authorities" when it comes to computers? Obviously not.
dkf
Aug 2013
#113
So you are claiming that the NSA either has very lax security allowing "any" Super User
DontTreadOnMe
Aug 2013
#120
What a nonsensical response. He hacked the system is not "certainly had the authorities to wiretap"
ProSense
Aug 2013
#149
"Hair on Fire" = "Tornado Full of Sharks" lol.. I think we have a new label
DontTreadOnMe
Aug 2013
#214
It's not Kos, it's just a diary by one of thousands of DK members. Post has no particular
leveymg
Aug 2013
#122
+Infinity! I say we suspend all funding for the NSA in toto until it complies with your quite
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#143
"Dana Priest's 'report' quotes no sources and presents data that this totally unverified. "
ProSense
Aug 2013
#146
"If you want 'evidence' from Greenwald, maybe you should contact him and ask. "
ProSense
Aug 2013
#162
If the claims are untrue, why was Clapper willing to commit a felony and lie to the Senate?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#134
Ever More Character Assassination - Pro Active And Sensible - Government Approved - IMHO
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#142
I approve of the dissemination & acceptance of the truth. As any reasonable, rational person should.
baldguy
Aug 2013
#254
If you are serious, post links to the "REAL evidence". "Dude, seriously". nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#176
Anyone swayed from one side to the other by this latest attempt? Hands? nt
Union Scribe
Aug 2013
#224
Cool blog post dude,.. nice you found another partisan over democracy hack,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#227
lolz,. right on point! endless delusional posts and non-responses is all ps offers,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#255