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bvar22

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117. I completely understand WHY a Moderate Republican

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:01 PM

Jul 2013

...would be completely happy with the Obama Administration.

OTOH, you would have to acknowledge that an FDR/LBJ Traditional Democrat could be very unhappy with the direction he has taken the Democratic Party,
and his failure to come through or even mention again his 2008 Campaign Promises to the Working Class and Organized LABOR.

[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center] [center]

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[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]

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President Obama will be in office until January, 2017. [View all] MineralMan Jul 2013 OP

MAJOR KICK! It is so simple, it may escape some people. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #1

This is not the first time I've suggested this, either. MineralMan Jul 2013 #2

KICK AND RECOMMEND trueblue2007 Jul 2013 #88

K and r too! MaeScott Jul 2013 #146

And, yes, I did K&R my own post. MineralMan Jul 2013 #3

I will always JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #4

Thank you very much. MineralMan Jul 2013 #5

He did just the same to FR when he was posting there Fumesucker Jul 2013 #7

That was a long time ago, but yes, MineralMan Jul 2013 #10

MM JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #19

I left there in 2006, after America elected Democratic majorities MineralMan Jul 2013 #29

Seriously? JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #11

Honestly I have no idea what he is Fumesucker Jul 2013 #17

Naaaah JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #27

I've seen MM pull enough underhanded shenanigans here that I'm not a fan Fumesucker Jul 2013 #37

I have to agree with Fumesucker and add that he lied to me and about me. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #84

That seems like quite the unequivocal apology. And from what I've seen of his posts, he Squinch Jul 2013 #127

So you don't support GOTV for Dems? jazzimov Jul 2013 #14

Reading is fundamental Fumesucker Jul 2013 #21

yawn arely staircase Jul 2013 #57

Kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2013 #6

Thanks! I appreciate that. MineralMan Jul 2013 #8

I ask you this. Since you seem to know the root upaloopa Jul 2013 #9

Actually, that's exactly what Holder is doing... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #13

Yup. We only see what we want to see, and disregard the rest. MineralMan Jul 2013 #18

+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #31

You may be right, but the work to do it starts now. MineralMan Jul 2013 #38

I agree JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #41

Thank you for what you are doing. It's important! MineralMan Jul 2013 #42

I know the Holder vs Texas story upaloopa Jul 2013 #99

You know, the President is a busy guy. You want to MineralMan Jul 2013 #15

The President has the bully pulpit. No one else has. upaloopa Jul 2013 #101

And he uses that bully pulpit. MineralMan Jul 2013 #140

And thank God for that!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #12

Again this fairy tale that the President is merely being obstructed? woo me with science Jul 2013 #16

Blue links? MineralMan Jul 2013 #20

Neither will incessant defensive misrepresentation woo me with science Jul 2013 #23

Stop blaming voters leftstreet Jul 2013 #26

+100000 woo me with science Jul 2013 #28

word up frylock Jul 2013 #91

Your "don't bother electing Democrats' schtick is quite remarkable geek tragedy Jul 2013 #30

No. Shit. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #44

You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #47

+1 n/t FSogol Jul 2013 #100

+1 SunSeeker Jul 2013 #68

Funny, that's exactly how I feel woo me with science Jul 2013 #80

blah blah blah we've read your spam list nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #81

I think you are projecting. Just substitute "pseudo-left assaults" and emulatorloo Jul 2013 #107

Fancy your being here, too! woo me with science Jul 2013 #115

I know! it is ENTIRELY despicable that I'm gonna do GOTV in 2014! emulatorloo Jul 2013 #118

See post 78. woo me with science Jul 2013 #119

Oh I comprehend you just fine emulatorloo Jul 2013 #121

So, you're opposed to Democratic majorities in Congress MineralMan Jul 2013 #48

Perhaps you don't remember your OP Union Scribe Jul 2013 #78

So you are opposed to a solid Dem majority in Congress and GOTV. emulatorloo Jul 2013 #108

Wow, that same list of blue links again. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #71

Yep. The "poor powerless Obama" talking point Union Scribe Jul 2013 #75

You have to wonder how Obama feels woo me with science Jul 2013 #116

so what are you doing about it? arely staircase Jul 2013 #129

More winger memes from you, are we to expect different any time soon? tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #158

So posting a list of the President's own policies and behavior woo me with science Jul 2013 #163

OH NOES......BLUE LINKS!!!!!!!! madmom Jul 2013 #168

Pretty disturbing information in there, wouldn't you say? nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #169

I didn't even read them, I'm just laughing at the fact that is madmom Jul 2013 #172

Well, to be fair, woo me with science Jul 2013 #174

To be fair.. madmom Jul 2013 #175

To be fair, woo me with science Jul 2013 #176

But sometimes, because of people's different madmom Jul 2013 #178

Well, woo me with science Jul 2013 #179

Ah, so now we get personal, you know what is said about that... madmom Jul 2013 #181

Oh, that's just funny. woo me with science Jul 2013 #186

Show me where madmom Jul 2013 #190

You have a nice day, too. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #191

you've cried wolf too many times. nobody's buying it anymore. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #170

The outrage when the President's own policies are posted woo me with science Jul 2013 #173

How many times has Barack Obama killed Social Security? How many?? MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #182

Not true dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #193

So if we get a democratic congress zipplewrath Jul 2013 #22

I Like it. Andy823 Jul 2013 #24

Thank you. Let's do it! MineralMan Jul 2013 #33

THIS IS WHAT I WANT FROM DU!!!! DonRedwood Jul 2013 #25

Thank you for helping where help is needed. MineralMan Jul 2013 #34

13 recs? That's not enough so I am kicking this. DonRedwood Jul 2013 #32

Thanks for the kick! MineralMan Jul 2013 #35

Everything flows from control of the Congress, both houses. bemildred Jul 2013 #36

Yup. A President can ask for change, but it must happen MineralMan Jul 2013 #39

Yep, own the state legislature and you control the state. bemildred Jul 2013 #40

Voters in Minnesota took their state legislature back in 2012. MineralMan Jul 2013 #43

Oh, it's been done before, and not just once either. bemildred Jul 2013 #46

^ ^ ^ WINNER!!! ^ ^ ^ TAKE THE STATES! lastlib Jul 2013 #97

Wherein lies the power to tax, and to spend, and to enact geek tragedy Jul 2013 #45

It's funny. All a guy has to do is read the Constitution, MineralMan Jul 2013 #49

When the President does something we don't like geek tragedy Jul 2013 #52

So some people say. It's the system. They want a different MineralMan Jul 2013 #58

If you control the money, and the power to impeach, you control it all. bemildred Jul 2013 #50

But see Iraq, circa 2007-2009. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #51

If the public is not sufficiently aroused, they do as they please. That seems obvious. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #54

There is much that is obvious that remains hidden in plain view nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #55

You see what you look for. You see what you are ready to see. bemildred Jul 2013 #65

he is only slightly over half-way done being president arely staircase Jul 2013 #53

Yup. There's still much that can be done. MineralMan Jul 2013 #59

Huge K&R! PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #56

Thank you! MineralMan Jul 2013 #60

Yes! PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #67

You can do it! That's exactly what we need. MineralMan Jul 2013 #70

Amazing how many DU'ers come into this post and just argue DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #61

Thanks for noticing. Yes, all I am suggesting is that we MineralMan Jul 2013 #66

It's the non-Democrats of Democratic Underground. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #171

This thread is Trending now on DU's Home Page. MineralMan Jul 2013 #62

K&R. Good post! cliffordu Jul 2013 #63

Thank you for the kick! MineralMan Jul 2013 #64

We are working hard in NC....so don't need to be lectured... KoKo Jul 2013 #69

I'm encouraging people to GOTV! MineralMan Jul 2013 #73

Beautiful post. woo me with science Jul 2013 #83

I know you understand! plus...Thanks! KoKo Jul 2013 #105

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #72

I have to leave the thread for a couple of hours, MineralMan Jul 2013 #74

If you want to argue to GOTV, then fine. Dawgs Jul 2013 #76

No president has had such an obstructionist Congress, media onslought/w outright lies, etc.... hue Jul 2013 #77

You might be able to make a case that the 80th "Do Nothing" Congress obstructed totodeinhere Jul 2013 #86

exciting. boilerbabe Jul 2013 #79

Obama in campaign mode = raising expectations tularetom Jul 2013 #82

K&R. We need an aggressive pushback against these kinds of agitators. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #85

I think we need those who understand how MineralMan Jul 2013 #109

This. N/T Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2013 #87

You would think the complainers would realize after 4.5 years of complaining.. DCBob Jul 2013 #89

STFU is easier to type out frylock Jul 2013 #92

as is WTF? DCBob Jul 2013 #94

It is what they do. They'll never stop complaining. FSogol Jul 2013 #102

Why they are complaining is the real question. MineralMan Jul 2013 #110

Start by registering voters. Join your local Democratic Club and volunteer. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #90

+1 million. MineralMan Jul 2013 #111

Even if the Senate passed Obama's agenda, it'd still die in the House. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #93

You speak truth. MineralMan Jul 2013 #112

Nothing is happening... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #95

We need a liberal Congress in no small part to rein in the Executive and to push TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #96

Hear hear! BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #98

Congress, and State and Local too!!!! arcane1 Jul 2013 #103

I am with you! MineralMan Jul 2013 #113

I honestly dont have the energy for it. quakerboy Jul 2013 #104

K&R. Your call to action posts are always appreciated MM. great white snark Jul 2013 #106

Thanks for the encouragement. MineralMan Jul 2013 #114

I completely understand WHY a Moderate Republican bvar22 Jul 2013 #117

That ProSense Jul 2013 #120

Well, Obama wasn't entriely accurate bvar22 Jul 2013 #122

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #123

Lets see, got caught deliberately MISREPRESENTING a quote emulatorloo Jul 2013 #124

They. Don't. Care. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #133

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #125

Yes, we can! MineralMan Jul 2013 #151

Back when Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #126

Yep davidpdx Jul 2013 #138

Thanks MM Historic NY Jul 2013 #128

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #130

Sigh....so few people realize who pulls the strings in this 'Democracy' Taverner Jul 2013 #131

But there is a problem with the "aint nothing the President can do" argument. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #132

"He can redirect the DOJ" BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #142

And who are you directing your anger at? We in the state of Washington want the Federal Government rhett o rick Jul 2013 #165

You assume no empathy BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #185

Recommended. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #134

He is not trying to get progressive things done. Fearless Jul 2013 #135

KnR. Good thinking, MM... Hekate Jul 2013 #136

K&R silverweb Jul 2013 #137

Kick and 96th Rec davidpdx Jul 2013 #139

Ex-freepers are allowed here? n/t SylviaD Jul 2013 #141

That is your comment on a call for a GOTV effort MineralMan Jul 2013 #144

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damn! SwampG8r Jul 2013 #159

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Fairy Tale whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #143

Thanks for the reply. MineralMan Jul 2013 #145

I certainly agree that participating in local government is our responsibility whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #147

I did not say it would fix everything. I said it would MineralMan Jul 2013 #149

I truly thought damnedifIknow Jul 2013 #148

Did you? I'm afraid that nothing has changed that would make MineralMan Jul 2013 #150

Yes he is a brilliant speaker damnedifIknow Jul 2013 #153

Afternoon Kick! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #160

Thanks. MineralMan Jul 2013 #161

I agree, generally. Gore1FL Jul 2013 #162

Actually, quite a bit did get done during that period, but MineralMan Jul 2013 #166

Happy to support this thread. longship Jul 2013 #164

Thank you. Very well put. MineralMan Jul 2013 #167

I live in Iowa, and our Democratic Senate blocks the egregious teabag initiatives coming emulatorloo Jul 2013 #177

Some folks argue against everything, even GOTV. MineralMan Jul 2013 #180

sanely said heaven05 Jul 2013 #183

When he had a Democratic Congress and 60 Senate seats, all we got was Mitt Romney's health care plan steelmania75 Jul 2013 #184

We had "60 seats" in the Senate for 4 months BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #189

Agreed!!!! LongTomH Jul 2013 #187

Great...thanks! George II Jul 2013 #188

President Obama has let me down numerous times too tiredtoo Jul 2013 #192

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #194

Thank you. This thread seems to have some legs. That's good. MineralMan Jul 2013 #195

Kick Scurrilous Jul 2013 #196