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flamingdem

(39,346 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:02 PM Jul 2013

Snowed on Snowden [View all]

http://3dblogger.typepad.com/wired_state/2013/07/snowed-on-snowden.html

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The method isn't really about reform; it's about making the US retaliate, and then pointing to the harsher policies and claiming the US is no longer its liberal self, true to its ideas, and then working to discredit and undermine both America and its liberal ideas as false. It is not about wishing the best for the US, as much as Snowden thinks he can mouth this platitude and have us believe it.

It's like the hackers who hack and disable and damage a website and then claim that all along they were really just "helping" a company to beef up its security. Baloney. If they really cared, they would quietly speak to their own IT colleagues and help them. If they really cared, they wouldn't need to bully and shame a corporation and portray it in an ill light -- and harm its customers. What happened with Snowden's hack of USA, Inc. is no different than Swartz taking down Jstor and MIT defiantly in the copyleftist cause, or Weev assaulting AT&T and running off with its customer lists in a supposed, um, helpful probe dedicated to a Better World. Poppycock. All of this is about radical nihilism and anarchism and most of all, taking power. After all, when anarchists thwart and disable and defeat power, where does it go? To them. WikiLeaks is about a war for power, not a campaign for freedom or rights.

There are too many liberals who think that there's some national conversation to be had here that is "better" than Snowden's coerced version -- they're willing to say they've been "lost" on the cause because he leaked to the Chinese but still think he "did some good".

Nonsense. The nature of the means by which you "start this national debate" matter -- if it is by crime, collusion, and coercion, then those are the results we will end up with when those hackers come into power. No thank you!



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Snowed on Snowden [View all] flamingdem Jul 2013 OP
And the White House is still spying on all Americans MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #1
try harder manny dionysus Jul 2013 #2
At least we're not hearing flamingdem Jul 2013 #3
Cite some evidence of that Mr. Goldstein. randome Jul 2013 #8
Sure: MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #31
Right, the op-ed extolling the exceptional Rand Paul: ucrdem Jul 2013 #32
Yes, that's what it is. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #33
Rancid is welcome to his opinion. ucrdem Jul 2013 #34
How many attacks on Snowden is this today? Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #4
I posted an article flamingdem Jul 2013 #5
How many attacks on Snowden today? Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #6
No whining on DU. Post your own article nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #7
3 attacks on Snowden today. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #9
Are you the post nanny today? flamingdem Jul 2013 #13
Yes I am. You need a timeout. Your quota for shoot the messenger posts is two. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #17
You're welcome to alert nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #19
Referred to Wikileaks article: flamingdem Jul 2013 #10
Yeah, overturning our rights. randome Jul 2013 #23
I wish someone would interview that lawyer flamingdem Jul 2013 #25
"Come and see the violence inherent in the system!" randome Jul 2013 #11
Is that from Monty Python? flamingdem Jul 2013 #14
Oh, yes. And that fits exactly what the author is saying. randome Jul 2013 #16
No one expects the Snowden Inquisition flamingdem Jul 2013 #18
Work on it. randome Jul 2013 #20
This is one of the most ridiculous articles I have read on the subject. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #12
Wow, I'm surprised you read anything I post flamingdem Jul 2013 #15
I for one read your articles Savannahmann Jul 2013 #21
ROTFLSHMSFOAIDMT flamingdem Jul 2013 #22
DURec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #24
Let's listen to Emma Goldman for a moment: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #26
Great reference. flamingdem Jul 2013 #28
An exceedingly dangerous woman struggle4progress Jul 2013 #30
Snowden needs to buy a new shirt. I'm sick of seeing him in that one. n/t Tx4obama Jul 2013 #27
Someone analyzed the shirt! flamingdem Jul 2013 #29
The Snowden story is so yesterday's story. It has been replaced. FarCenter Jul 2013 #35
What a sad statement for those of you that have no lives except to obsess over rhett o rick Jul 2013 #36
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