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In reply to the discussion: Look what NAFTA did to Ecuador and then tell me I'm posting too much about the TPP [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)105. Agreed. That's exactly what this poll showed. They only differ in percentages.
And you are right. Both parties have wings that support these trade agreements and wings that Oppose them. Some "bipartisanship" on both the 'pro' and the 'con' sides. .
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Look what NAFTA did to Ecuador and then tell me I'm posting too much about the TPP [View all]
cali
Jul 2013
OP
notice what is missing from the obama quote in the last paragraph - protecting our constitutional
msongs
Jul 2013
#1
Even if he did say he would protet our constitutional rights, I wouldn't believe him.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#18
well we know that part in Obama's speech about not privatizing our public services is a lie.
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#2
Just curious, which of these trade agreements were negotiated by President Obama?
Progressive dog
Jul 2013
#5
What is your argument? It's terrible but not Obama's fault. Good fucking grief. nm
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#49
I don't see Obama getting fast track authority particularly from the republicans in the House.
pampango
Jul 2013
#109
Maize almost has religious status in much of Mexico so it's doubly hard when farmers
byeya
Jul 2013
#22
Of course treaties supersede national laws. You want more isolationism because you disagree with
RB TexLa
Jul 2013
#12
"Some outcomes"? Retarded children, stunted growth, shortened lifespans, ruined watersheds.
mbperrin
Jul 2013
#34
Again, a neolib calls unfettered trade a force tantamount to the hand of god. Makes me sick.
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2013
#36
There is no such thing as posting too much about the TPP. Betrayals don't get any worse than this.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#17
What kind of a scumbag would look at a region - a continent in this case - and declare
byeya
Jul 2013
#30
Not to hijack the thread, but I have debated that very question with my friends here in town.
BornLooser
Jul 2013
#37
Caught this on Netflix, worth the watch: "Speaking Freely with John Perkins (Economic Hitman)"
drokhole
Jul 2013
#33
Ecuador isn't even in NAFTA. The only countries in NAFTA are the US, Canada and Mexico.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2013
#42
exactly: it "mimiced" NAFTA. Granted I put NAFTA in the op headline because people
cali
Jul 2013
#60
so what? that has to be one of the worst arguments evah. Bernie Sanders doesn't support it either.
cali
Jul 2013
#59
"So what?" It gives you many tactical allies in fighting TPP. That should make you happy.
pampango
Jul 2013
#62
just pointing out that that's a bad argument- and a thoroughly contemptible one as well
cali
Jul 2013
#68
I think Sanders, Brown and others like the world very much. They are not anti-immigration,
pampango
Jul 2013
#72
Plenty of Democrats don't like NAFTA/WTO, too. Just not as many as republicans/teabaggers.
pampango
Jul 2013
#87
OMG ...DU will commit suicide over having something in common with the tea party.
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#108
Seems doubtful. We do circular firing squads better than we do the one-person variety.
pampango
Jul 2013
#111
That the questions, "Does this mean you support NAFTA? Like the Republicans?" would be more accurate
pampango
Jul 2013
#91
As a Democrat I support liberal trade. Per Pew, most Democrats do and most republicans don't.
pampango
Jul 2013
#95
So you support NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. Do you believe they are responsible for the
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#97
I support liberal, low-tariff trade. If you need to hang a label on that, that's your call.
pampango
Jul 2013
#102
There is both bipartisan support and opposition to free trade agreements.
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#103
Agreed. That's exactly what this poll showed. They only differ in percentages.
pampango
Jul 2013
#105
Thou doth protest too much? I made no such accusation here or the post you linked to.
pampango
Jul 2013
#112
Indeed support was dropping among Democrats, but a plurality still supported it.
pampango
Jul 2013
#117
NAFTA was supported by Democratic President Bill Clinton and received bipartisan support in Congress
Freddie Stubbs
Jul 2013
#96
Yes that is history. Why did you mention it? Are you trying to make a point? If so,
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#98
I am refuting your insinuation that supporting NAFTA is a sign that someone is a Republican
Freddie Stubbs
Jul 2013
#99
"According to Barack Obama on the campaign trail, ..." Oh, great. Now we know which way he's going
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#54
Fuck people who are telling you that you are posting too much about the TPP.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jul 2013
#73
Secret treaties, secret laws, secret courts... and whistleblowers are public enemy #1.
Marr
Jul 2013
#115
For anyone who doesn't think that Obama's directly involved with the Trans Pacific Partnership
AZ Progressive
Jul 2013
#118