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In reply to the discussion: Look what NAFTA did to Ecuador and then tell me I'm posting too much about the TPP [View all]byeya
(2,842 posts)30. What kind of a scumbag would look at a region - a continent in this case - and declare
it could do with more poison in its environment.
And why did Obama hire him?
Summers is a neoliberal/neocon associated with several public failures and yet he's always employable at a nice wage.
Got fired from the Harvard presidency, didn't he?
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Look what NAFTA did to Ecuador and then tell me I'm posting too much about the TPP [View all]
cali
Jul 2013
OP
notice what is missing from the obama quote in the last paragraph - protecting our constitutional
msongs
Jul 2013
#1
Even if he did say he would protet our constitutional rights, I wouldn't believe him.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#18
well we know that part in Obama's speech about not privatizing our public services is a lie.
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#2
Just curious, which of these trade agreements were negotiated by President Obama?
Progressive dog
Jul 2013
#5
What is your argument? It's terrible but not Obama's fault. Good fucking grief. nm
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#49
I don't see Obama getting fast track authority particularly from the republicans in the House.
pampango
Jul 2013
#109
Maize almost has religious status in much of Mexico so it's doubly hard when farmers
byeya
Jul 2013
#22
Of course treaties supersede national laws. You want more isolationism because you disagree with
RB TexLa
Jul 2013
#12
"Some outcomes"? Retarded children, stunted growth, shortened lifespans, ruined watersheds.
mbperrin
Jul 2013
#34
Again, a neolib calls unfettered trade a force tantamount to the hand of god. Makes me sick.
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2013
#36
There is no such thing as posting too much about the TPP. Betrayals don't get any worse than this.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#17
What kind of a scumbag would look at a region - a continent in this case - and declare
byeya
Jul 2013
#30
Not to hijack the thread, but I have debated that very question with my friends here in town.
BornLooser
Jul 2013
#37
Caught this on Netflix, worth the watch: "Speaking Freely with John Perkins (Economic Hitman)"
drokhole
Jul 2013
#33
Ecuador isn't even in NAFTA. The only countries in NAFTA are the US, Canada and Mexico.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2013
#42
exactly: it "mimiced" NAFTA. Granted I put NAFTA in the op headline because people
cali
Jul 2013
#60
so what? that has to be one of the worst arguments evah. Bernie Sanders doesn't support it either.
cali
Jul 2013
#59
"So what?" It gives you many tactical allies in fighting TPP. That should make you happy.
pampango
Jul 2013
#62
just pointing out that that's a bad argument- and a thoroughly contemptible one as well
cali
Jul 2013
#68
I think Sanders, Brown and others like the world very much. They are not anti-immigration,
pampango
Jul 2013
#72
Plenty of Democrats don't like NAFTA/WTO, too. Just not as many as republicans/teabaggers.
pampango
Jul 2013
#87
OMG ...DU will commit suicide over having something in common with the tea party.
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#108
Seems doubtful. We do circular firing squads better than we do the one-person variety.
pampango
Jul 2013
#111
That the questions, "Does this mean you support NAFTA? Like the Republicans?" would be more accurate
pampango
Jul 2013
#91
As a Democrat I support liberal trade. Per Pew, most Democrats do and most republicans don't.
pampango
Jul 2013
#95
So you support NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. Do you believe they are responsible for the
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#97
I support liberal, low-tariff trade. If you need to hang a label on that, that's your call.
pampango
Jul 2013
#102
There is both bipartisan support and opposition to free trade agreements.
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#103
Agreed. That's exactly what this poll showed. They only differ in percentages.
pampango
Jul 2013
#105
Thou doth protest too much? I made no such accusation here or the post you linked to.
pampango
Jul 2013
#112
Indeed support was dropping among Democrats, but a plurality still supported it.
pampango
Jul 2013
#117
NAFTA was supported by Democratic President Bill Clinton and received bipartisan support in Congress
Freddie Stubbs
Jul 2013
#96
Yes that is history. Why did you mention it? Are you trying to make a point? If so,
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#98
I am refuting your insinuation that supporting NAFTA is a sign that someone is a Republican
Freddie Stubbs
Jul 2013
#99
"According to Barack Obama on the campaign trail, ..." Oh, great. Now we know which way he's going
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#54
Fuck people who are telling you that you are posting too much about the TPP.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jul 2013
#73
Secret treaties, secret laws, secret courts... and whistleblowers are public enemy #1.
Marr
Jul 2013
#115
For anyone who doesn't think that Obama's directly involved with the Trans Pacific Partnership
AZ Progressive
Jul 2013
#118