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alfredo

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16. But the south had no interest in peace. If they couldn't spread slavery into the territories

Reply to byeya (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:59 PM

Jul 2013

they'd rather secede. They wanted the territories so the slave states could be the majority in congress. They wanted slavery to be the law in all states. The north made concessions, the south none. That same mentality is alive today in the modern Republican party.

The business community up north was profiting from slavery. Their loyalties were split.

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Lincoln gave Stanton broad powers to spy on Americans. [View all] alfredo Jul 2013 OP

Lincoln was fighting a real war against a nation-like entity. More Americans died in the Civil War byeya Jul 2013 #1

historians mostly agree nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #2

I'm not justifying, just showing the hazards of hero worship. alfredo Jul 2013 #9

Good point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #11

That's OK. This is a tough issue. alfredo Jul 2013 #12

Who built Obama up as a Messiah? oberliner Jul 2013 #22

Maybe Messaih is too strong a word. We wrote our desires on alfredo Jul 2013 #23

I don't think Obama is the Messiah, or the Anti-Christ, or King of the World. Zen Democrat Jul 2013 #28

I think he's been a good president. I also realize he is a human and politician. alfredo Jul 2013 #29

No they don't agree Progressive dog Jul 2013 #14

The entire country was a war zone pscot Jul 2013 #3

+ + byeya Jul 2013 #4

But was it right? Savannahmann Jul 2013 #5

It's always "right" when we win. alfredo Jul 2013 #10

Sadly, Lincoln like the WiFi connection at the theater. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #6

What was "vast" for those times would be small by today's standard. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #7

The telegraph was the only game in town for high speed communication. alfredo Jul 2013 #17

Yeah, I got that. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #19

True, but anyone with access, used them. alfredo Jul 2013 #24

But he was a stinking Republican MNBrewer Jul 2013 #8

I remember Obama being called an "Eisenhower Republican." alfredo Jul 2013 #13

I think he alluded to himself as that although he may not have mentioned Eisenhower's name. byeya Jul 2013 #15

But the south had no interest in peace. If they couldn't spread slavery into the territories alfredo Jul 2013 #16

You are completely correct. I only mentioned the Copperheads, some of whom were pacifists, to byeya Jul 2013 #18

"Black Republicans" IDemo Jul 2013 #21

I am in the first quarter of "Team of Rivals" by Goodwin alfredo Jul 2013 #27

It was a political writer that said it, but I can't remember who it was. alfredo Jul 2013 #25

Sort of OT but about Stanton and Lincoln PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #20

I might have to look for it. alfredo Jul 2013 #26