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In reply to the discussion: Here are some lies you can tell about Glenn Greenwald. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)52. About Greenwald:
Glenn Greenwald: What the Supreme Court got right (Flashback)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100293141
Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022485711
Drones to kill people "suspected of robbing a liquor store."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100293141
Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022485711
Disappointing those who 'stand with Rand'
By Steve Benen
In March, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) launched a high-profile filibuster on the Senate floor, bringing attention to drone strikes and civil liberties questions that too often go ignored. But as the spectacle faded, a problem emerged -- Paul didn't seem to fully understand the issue he ostensibly cares so much about.
The Kentucky Republican wanted to know if the Obama administration feels it has the authority to "use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil." Attorney General Eric Holders said the "answer to that question is no." For many involved in the debate, the answer was superficial and incomplete -- who gets to define what constitutes "combat"? what about non-weaponized drones? -- but Paul declared victory and walked away satisfied.
Today, the senator went further, saying he's comfortable with drones being used over U.S. soil if the executive branch decides -- without a warrant or oversight -- there's an "imminent threat." Paul told Fox News:
I realize it's difficult to explore complex policy questions in detail during a brief television interview, and perhaps if the Republican senator had more time to think about it, he might explain his position differently. But as of this afternoon, it sounds like Rand Paul is comfortable with the executive branch having the warrantless authority to use weaponized drones to kill people on American soil suspected of robbing a liquor store.
But flying over a hot tub is where he draws the line.
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/23/17881782-disappointing-those-who-stand-with-rand
By Steve Benen
In March, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) launched a high-profile filibuster on the Senate floor, bringing attention to drone strikes and civil liberties questions that too often go ignored. But as the spectacle faded, a problem emerged -- Paul didn't seem to fully understand the issue he ostensibly cares so much about.
The Kentucky Republican wanted to know if the Obama administration feels it has the authority to "use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil." Attorney General Eric Holders said the "answer to that question is no." For many involved in the debate, the answer was superficial and incomplete -- who gets to define what constitutes "combat"? what about non-weaponized drones? -- but Paul declared victory and walked away satisfied.
Today, the senator went further, saying he's comfortable with drones being used over U.S. soil if the executive branch decides -- without a warrant or oversight -- there's an "imminent threat." Paul told Fox News:
"...I've never argued against any technology being used when you an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don't care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him. But it's different if they want to come fly over your hot tub, or your yard just because they want to do surveillance on everyone, and they want to watch your activities."
I realize it's difficult to explore complex policy questions in detail during a brief television interview, and perhaps if the Republican senator had more time to think about it, he might explain his position differently. But as of this afternoon, it sounds like Rand Paul is comfortable with the executive branch having the warrantless authority to use weaponized drones to kill people on American soil suspected of robbing a liquor store.
But flying over a hot tub is where he draws the line.
- more -
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/23/17881782-disappointing-those-who-stand-with-rand
Drones to kill people "suspected of robbing a liquor store."
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Glenn Greenwald, one of the best investigative journalists around today. This point
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#80
Of course 'saying' something wouldn't 'make it so' nor did I say that. He has a body of work to
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#142
Yes, more than ever I believe he is a very credible source. The more I see these disgusting attempts
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#82
OMG! Pornographer! OMG! Because you know, THAT is much worse than protecting torturers, war
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#111
I'm happy for you if you find solace in a proven liar. Doesn't say much about you, though, does it?
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#166
You noticed it too. It used to be more overt re Greenwald, but those were right wingers when
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#181
oh dear are you a Democrat? well it's a big tent I guess and you do post here
azurnoir
Jun 2013
#190
Only in the mind of his Defenders. You should take that up with his parents.
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#164
Did you even briefly scan the OP before commenting? I think maybe it's always a good idea to read
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#67
Why, because it violates your own brand of political mythology and witchhunting?
leveymg
Jun 2013
#7
As a Democrat I'm surprised you didn't know that. Anyone following his blog in 2008
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#134
No you didn't, you linked to a bunch of .deceptions and distortions. If you have something
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#128
"The New York County Clerk’s office shows Greenwald has $126,000 in open judgments and liens."
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#137
Listen, you're just not getting it. His personal trivia which is not different to the personal
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#139
I know, I meant it when I said I hope whoever got the HB Gary contract isn't paying
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#189
Are you aware that you are on a DEMOCRATIC forum which has consistently opposed the Right Wing
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#78
'But this slime-crawling, mudslinging routine is just distasteful to watch.'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#163
Sabrina - Wow! what I am seeing on this thread is that They. Are. FRANTIC!
truth2power
Jun 2013
#199
Joy Reid would eviscerate him. Chris Hayes got a little difficult with him and GiGi
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#43
Apples and oranges. Grayson is a bona fide Democrat and votes with the Democrats.
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#51
So if someone is not a Democrat they are worthless human beings and deserve no rights in this
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#126
It's funny to see someone with the initials BCD makes fun of someone else based on their initials
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#148
That commie favors a public option for healthcare reform. I knew he was a Libertarian!
think
Jun 2013
#9
Sure he does. That's why he supported Ron Paul, the advocate for a public option
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#20
Yeah, you voted for him, so you support SS cuts, corporate health care, torture,
Doctor_J
Jun 2013
#35
Hey, what about that illegal, unConstitutional surveillance state he was discussing? Can we talk
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#15
Perhaps you can point me to an unpopular stand he's taken since winning in 2009
Doctor_J
Jun 2013
#93
Political coward? If mr. Greenwald believes that why doesn't he run for public office. It is so
still_one
Jun 2013
#63
I doubt if Greenwald ever spent one minute working for a Democratic Party candidate
Kolesar
Jun 2013
#95
Greenwald won't go on her program because she would ask him direct questions.
Major Hogwash
Jun 2013
#221
obnoxious, dishonest juvenile behavior... par for the course from the TEAM PLAYERS here
bobduca
Jun 2013
#25
and for one reason and one reason only - he is exposing the security state
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#64
Then you know that Greenwald spent the last 4 years ripping apart President Obama.
Major Hogwash
Jun 2013
#212
All she managed to do is illustrate and confirm the duplicitous smearing he's writing about
whatchamacallit
Jun 2013
#79
Wow, this utterly destroys the cadre of smear mongers who've been running amok for years on DU!
whatchamacallit
Jun 2013
#55
Nobody cares about Greenwald. And he can't stand that. So he makes himself the news.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#98
Go read the Statement of Purpose and Rules. It's not just a "Democratic" forum.
Hissyspit
Jun 2013
#124
The only people saying that are either unfamiliar with his work, or deliberately
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#136
Piers Morgan is a British Tabloid 'journalst' who worked for Rupert Murdoch and has been
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#155
Oh stop with the nonsense. No one is buying this lies a and distortions anymore. I would correct
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#223
the Bush=everyone else parallel is a faux strawman. After all, Cheney hates Bush too the last 3 year
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#153
Well, you would have a point if it was about Bush personally or anyone else personally. But it's
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#156
Well you are entitled to make politics all about you. To me politics is about the country, what is
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#160
Don't like the Bush's, then why tear down the democratic party to elect a Bush, Jeb?
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#191
And NONE of those issues would have ever been raised if BUSH were still president.
MotherPetrie
Jun 2013
#109
Thanks for this post. I've seen these lies spread on DU by some of those posting above.
snot
Jun 2013
#204
I hear he likes to dress up like a cop and beat the hell out of hippies....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2013
#210