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John2

(2,730 posts)
40. That is why
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

Zimmerman having a loaded gun in the fight should have ended it. It is just his word, and not an even fight. We don't even know if the gun was in Zimmerman's holster and when he pulled it out. We don't know when Martin saw the gun. Zimmerman could have had Martin on the ground even with his back on the cement. Martin still could have been struggling to get away from Zimmerman, while fighting for his life, in Zimmerman's grip. That is just only speculation, just like everythingelse, except the facts before the struggle. All we know is who was chasing whom, before everythingelse became speculation. It comes down to two witnesses,Jenteal and Good. I think Jenteal is more authentic than Good. If Good really believed what he saw and heard, then why didn't Good give Zimmerman help? I don't believe Good at all, when he claim he saw what others couldn't. Ad I'll say somethingelse, anybody in a fight for their lives would have defensive wounds, not just offensive ones. There is no evidence of Zimmerman defending himself other than a gun. If that is so, Zimmerman didn't use all means at his disposal. And anybody with martial arts training, should at be capable of putting up some defense. Did Zimmerman have any wounds on his knuckles or hands?

But he did it while being black. To a white guy. So it doesn't count. lastlib Jun 2013 #1
Just so... bravenak Jun 2013 #2
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #3
go away warrior1 Jun 2013 #4
No I'm not joking. bravenak Jun 2013 #5
Sorry for the confusion, but I was talking to the person warrior1 Jun 2013 #6
You mean the person that was yelling for help BigD_95 Jun 2013 #7
That was Trayvon. bravenak Jun 2013 #9
No proof that Zimmerman was yelling for help. countingbluecars Jun 2013 #10
Trayvon was yelling for help FunkyLeprechaun Jun 2013 #14
SORRY. STALKERS don't get to play the "I'M AFRAID NOW" card. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #20
This is the fundamental point. yardwork Jun 2013 #47
Thank you! So...You got me curious about Z, and it's worse than you suggested. Molesting charges: WinkyDink Jun 2013 #62
That's a separate case from the one I was thinking about. yardwork Jun 2013 #65
Are you trying to make yourself look stupid? lunatica Jun 2013 #33
much rather have him heard though PatrynXX Jun 2013 #41
Trayvon was yelling for help. Too bad that doesn't fit in with your Cha Jun 2013 #53
Are you calling Zimmerman a liar? Nevernose Jul 2013 #68
Oh no, I know. bravenak Jun 2013 #8
Senseless? He was pefectly senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #12
+1000 wryter2000 Jun 2013 #18
LOL FunkyLeprechaun Jun 2013 #13
How do you know Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #17
So a kid walking home in a light rain in an unfamilar neighborhood cheapdate Jun 2013 #19
described very well, thanks. I hope the jury can see clearly too. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #37
Zimmerman Claims DallasNE Jun 2013 #46
Like a lot of people, I've got a teenage son. cheapdate Jun 2013 #48
Any private citizen stalking and confronting me secondvariety Jun 2013 #21
wow you are a really unskillful liar demwing Jun 2013 #22
Did you miss the medical report? Nevernose Jun 2013 #23
"He"? You mean Zimmy? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #24
Then ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #28
Hmmm, "punching non-stop"? louis-t Jun 2013 #39
Really? Zimmerman did not want to fight? Did Travon tell you that? Or was Travon hunted down with no The Wielding Truth Jun 2013 #44
Wait...so I'm clear, you're saying that Trayvon flvegan Jun 2013 #11
He said to the operator, " he's running" bravenak Jun 2013 #15
There you go Soundman Jun 2013 #32
It must be Opposite Day. bravenak Jun 2013 #34
wow there is a whole brigade here Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #42
Wny do you think it is a travesty that the case made it to trial? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #50
Sorry about the delay in responding. Soundman Jul 2013 #66
Have the introduced the forensic reports, the autopsy reports? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #67
Wow, you are one fast typist. Soundman Jul 2013 #69
Fair enough. flvegan Jun 2013 #52
You see that George himself said he was running. bravenak Jun 2013 #16
It is very John2 Jun 2013 #25
According to Jeantel, who he was on the phone with TM Nevernose Jun 2013 #26
Confirmation bias and a "Romney Moment" Ka hrnt Jun 2013 #27
I'm more about using a persons own words to convict them. bravenak Jun 2013 #29
Case in point.... Ka hrnt Jun 2013 #43
Nice try but no cigar. bravenak Jun 2013 #45
If it was "made up", it was "made up" by Zimmerman... Ka hrnt Jun 2013 #51
I apologize. bravenak Jun 2013 #55
Try reading the autopsy report rather than news media spin. Here... uppityperson Jun 2013 #57
No need to guess! dpibel Jun 2013 #49
If you looked at the autopsy report, why didn't you read it? csziggy Jun 2013 #59
Yes, that is a scar, my mistake. Ka hrnt Jun 2013 #61
If it's not important enough for you to get the facts, why post about it? csziggy Jun 2013 #64
Zimmerman had no right to target Martin, John2 Jun 2013 #36
"Evade, hide, run, yell, and if all else fails, fight like your life depends on it." Iggo Jun 2013 #30
I should print T - Shirts. bravenak Jun 2013 #31
I really think Bill Cosby nailed it form the start Wash. state Desk Jet Jun 2013 #35
Yep. On the real. bravenak Jun 2013 #38
That is why John2 Jun 2013 #40
What bothers me about Good's testimony is that he only heard two calls csziggy Jun 2013 #60
thank you for that, Wash state Desk Jet nm Cha Jun 2013 #58
thanks for your OP, bravenak.. of course he was. Cha Jun 2013 #54
Clearly someone named George makes his own rules. bravenak Jun 2013 #56
Oh, he will. sofa king Jun 2013 #63
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