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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald: NSA Can Store A BILLION CELL PHONE CALLS Every Day [View all]Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)44. I'm sure you have as much disdain and rejection of the neocon/Bush surveillance state
as you do for Mr. Greenwald, correct? And that Obama has expanded it to the tune of the destruction of the 1st, 4th,and 5th Amendments?
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I think what we are suggesting is that the NSA adhere to the 4th amendment.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#2
And we can have that discussion without elevating a RW libertarian douchebag to the status of a hero
baldguy
Jun 2013
#3
You need more talking points. You left out China, Russia, Ecuador, and Cuba.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#5
Did all of those 46% attend the briefings and such about the NSA or its programs et al?
Bodhi BloodWave
Jun 2013
#90
Collins' argument was that you can't request a briefing for things you don't know.
Pholus
Jun 2013
#117
I'm sure you have as much disdain and rejection of the neocon/Bush surveillance state
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#44
Obama ended the NSAs abuses under the Bush Regime, & forced them to get warrants for their wire taps
baldguy
Jun 2013
#52
On behalf of The Carlyle Group, Booz Allen, Academia, Halliburton, Beltek, Stratfor, HB Gary etc
think
Jun 2013
#151
"If the president does it, that means it is not illegal." ~Richard M. Nixon.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#164
So, what you really want is to impeach Barack Obama. And why not Joe Biden while you're at it.
baldguy
Jun 2013
#166
Funny he didn't mention it. Funny he didn't understand what a secure FTP server is.
randome
Jun 2013
#183
I hadn't consider that the NDAA clause could be used to indefinitely detain Snowden either.
think
Jun 2013
#184
If: I have a problem with Obama's UNCONSTITUTIONAL acts, Then: I want Boenher for president.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#170
Thank you, what an asshole to alert and ASSume. I =do= vote for democrats.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#185
No we cant. That's the whole point. People have tried to "have that discussion" in the past and
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#56
What's childish is supposedly rational, supposedly liberal people trying desperately
baldguy
Jun 2013
#59
Mass domestic surveillance has not gone through a 4th amendment challenge.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#10
ah of course. Arguably neither is the information passing over the internet, right?
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#17
There are entire volumes of laws and rules preventing that information from being shared.
randome
Jun 2013
#77
I'm no law or privacy scholar. I have no idea what laws are in place for school records.
randome
Jun 2013
#92
Recording of calls and storing them for a possible evidence in a criminal case without a warrant
boston bean
Jun 2013
#106
HIPAA prevents the reporting of medical records. No such statute applies to telephone metadata.
OilemFirchen
Jun 2013
#136
+1. anything that's on a computer is theirs. and since they're corraling us into putting
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#180
It's the digital age. Data is never 'given back', it's copied and then deleted.
randome
Jun 2013
#116
But you'll trust Verizon to know all that. They don't have laws preventing misuse.
randome
Jun 2013
#35
Just because there is a law doesnt mean it doesnt violate the Constitution. I suggest you read the
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#64
Well, it wasn't a Communist who told me this, and my hearing was quite good at the time...! nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#114
Now this report by Greenwald shows he does not have any concept of what he is
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#27
Greenwald says, ""It doesn't mean that they're listening to every call, it means they're storing
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#32
Do we have only a billion people in the US who has a cell phone? How many cell phone customers do
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#49
Ummm, the US population is 313.9 million. A factor of 3 smaller than a "billion"
Pholus
Jun 2013
#51
The 2014 NDAA creates a new complex dedicated to the analysis of stored data and metadata.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#38
How long do you expect a call to last, it does not add up. Longer calls means more storage is taken
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#53
Would you give the government permission to put a camera in every room in your house
Bolo Boffin
Jun 2013
#29
Once again, he could have read about Bush doing this and MORE here on DU many years ago!
Coyotl
Jun 2013
#37
But...but greenwald is a something or other! This means everything he says doesn't matter!
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#42
Prudence Dictates That One Must Make The Assumption That Everything Will Be Recorded
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#60
Any Smart Malcontent Would Surely Avoid All Forms Of Electronic Communication
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#75
Hasn't Echelon already been intercepting / storing over 3 billion / day for decades?
HiddenAgenda63
Jun 2013
#94
And the authoritarians break out their goto talking point: We already knew that!
DesMoinesDem
Jun 2013
#130