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In reply to the discussion: Ralph Nader Did Not Cost Al Gore the 2000 Presidential Election [View all]riqster
(13,986 posts)106. He was part of the problem
Along with voter disenfranchisement, election rigging, the Bushies, the Supremes, and a few others,
But always remember: Nader was at least partially financed by the Reeps. And he publicly stated that he hoped for a Budh victory. That pretty much makes him a Bush supporter (yes, different reasons, but still a Bush partisan).
So yeah, Nader deserves his share of the blame.
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When the votes are counted you don't have to win big. You just have to count the votes.
Autumn
Jun 2013
#190
+4 (the 4 votes in New Hampshire. RALPH Nader, THIS is YOUR legacy. You broke it, YOU own it.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#7
The exit polls from 1992 do not support the claim that Perot threw the election to Bush (eom)
StevieM
Jun 2013
#215
I'm sure the US Supreme Court, Katherine Harris, or Jeb Bush had nothing to do with Bush winning.
Apophis
Jun 2013
#17
The designer, Theresa LaPore, had been a registered Republican all her life.
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#278
Yep. And other than Republicans and Republican Party supporters, no one believes otherwise.
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#333
This thinking supposes that those Nader voters didn't have a say in the matter.
mattclearing
Jun 2013
#31
he did enough sniping with his blather, that there was no difference between both parties, and he
still_one
Jun 2013
#65
He was never a politician, never held elected office, and his only claim to being a
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#279
Wow, what an open-minded response. Not! I certainly understand your despite need to
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#102
I also blame ANY ONE who did NOT vote for Jimmy Carter in 1980. ANY ONE.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#8
that came after NH and the 4 electoral votes that would have given Al Gore 270.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#26
I know, why cover for the Felonious Five? I don't get that either. The SC stole
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#13
Some of us can walk and chew gum and blame multiple people at once
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jun 2013
#153
'shamed'. if he can be 'shamed' into giving up an election he *won,* what would he be as
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#335
vote fraud isn't an out? legal challenge isn't an out? protest isn't an out? gore curled up
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#337
When the votes were counted after the corrupt court, Al Gore had won the election.
Autumn
Jun 2013
#53
The Anti-LABOR, Free Trading, Deregulating, "Centrist" Clinton Administration CREATED Nader.
bvar22
Jun 2013
#142
Yes. What we suffered and continue to suffer is nothing less than a corporate coup.
raouldukelives
Jun 2013
#170
it prevents cognitive dissonance when Dems provide the sine qua non votes for the IWR
MisterP
Jun 2013
#157
No one needs studies to know that the SC stole the 2000 election. Everyone knows that, even
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#18
Thread Winner!!!! I guess it's true that a picture is worth a thousand words.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#37
No, the issue is that the SC committed a treasonous act and installed someone who lost an
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#20
Looks more like the new DU loves the criminals on the SC who stole an election and
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#25
Nader had zero to do with the 2000 election theft. Gore won, so how do you explain that?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#28
+10000! Blaming Nader is a pathetic loser tactic beneath the dignity of true Democrats
RufusTFirefly
Jun 2013
#155
So a politician lied about something? Show me one who hasn't. That has zero to do with the crime
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#60
Bullshit "it had zero to do with the crime". He drove the fucking getaway car. nt
LaydeeBug
Jun 2013
#83
No, he didn't. I've never been a Nader supporter, but he had as much right to campaign
winter is coming
Jun 2013
#90
Nader wasn't responsible for the butterfly ballot, or the Brooks Brothers mob, or the SC decision.
winter is coming
Jun 2013
#122
Yes. Gore won the election and it was stolen from him, He did not put up much of a fight either.
byeya
Jun 2013
#14
That election would have been stolen if Nader had never existed. Bush was appointed and would
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#33
Again, this is bullshit. Nader helped them steal it, and no amount of posturing changes that. nt
LaydeeBug
Jun 2013
#41
"Keep that in mind whenever the repugs put money into a left-leaning third-party candidate."
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#44
They only help the Republicans, which is why I despise them so much. Nader knew exactly what...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#105
What those who are trying to cover for the SC are saying is that we do not have a democratic
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#39
Gore would have won NH - and that would have made him President without Florida
karynnj
Jun 2013
#40
I guess is you say it enough times some people might believe you but most of us know
OregonBlue
Jun 2013
#43
I hate the fuckers! They're too lazy and/or stupid to build their own infrastructure, so....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#236
Yup, libertarians love to get stuff for free. Skinner's site is too good not to steal.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#237
"Fuck Bush, Fuck the SCOTUS, Fuck Nader, Fuck Jill Stein, and Fuck the Greenies".
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#51
Just imagine if Nader had appeared on a platform with Gore a few days before the election.
Nye Bevan
Jun 2013
#46
His freaking home state thinks Marcia Blackburn is worthy of elected office.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jun 2013
#58
not by himself he didn't.. to say he wasn't a big factor in it is ludicrous...
dionysus
Jun 2013
#59
There was more than just Florida that was lost cause nader was on the ballot. This is his legacy,
still_one
Jun 2013
#62
Yes, it was his right, and he ignored overtures from the Democratic party to work with him if he
still_one
Jun 2013
#76
500,000 more votes is not enough to win. We needed Naders voters too ...in la la land.
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#71
Considering one of the biggest and nastiest trolls on this site used that as his battle cry
Hydra
Jun 2013
#72
It's not one or the other, it's both. They both get the blame - Supreme Court AND Nader.
Dawgs
Jun 2013
#316
and...it is totally anti-democratic to blame a participant in this so-called democracy
noiretextatique
Jun 2013
#103
FLAW: The question about Nader-voters not otherwise voting for Gore, is in retrospect. Had there
WinkyDink
Jun 2013
#110
Bullshit. The studies showed that Gore would have had a plurality of 12,000 votes BEFORE SCOTUS.
onehandle
Jun 2013
#124
People have been voting against their own interest long before Faux News ever came to light.
demosincebirth
Jun 2013
#141
And let's not forget the US Senate, either. Kerry, Feingold, not one Democrat would stand up
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#131
Please explain where would those votes for Nader had gone to if he hadn't run for president that
demosincebirth
Jun 2013
#134
You're correct. Nader didn't cost Gore the election. But it's heresy to say that here...
truth2power
Jun 2013
#149
deja vu helps me remember that DU had plenty of pointless arguments even in the good old days
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2013
#252
if Nader wasnt on the ballot Gore would have been president. Nader gave us bush. Period.
bowens43
Jun 2013
#152
You'll never get anywhere with this.. Al Gore himself told me it wasn't Nader that cost him
SomethingFishy
Jun 2013
#160
Video of W and Jeb Bush saying they're going to win in FL is in Fahrenheit 9/11. n/t
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#169
May Ralph rot in the obscurity he so richly deserves surrounded by fawning syncophants
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#180
you will not convince those who keep blaming Nader because they always blame the left and suck up to
yurbud
Jun 2013
#209
If Bill Clinton hadn't hired Dick Morris and told progressives to get bent
Adenoid_Hynkel
Jun 2013
#212
If wishing made it so, you would be right. Unfortunately the facts make you wrong. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#239
Gore should have appealed to the voters he lost rather than the usual fuckwittery of
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#253
Yes. He. Did. Give me a fucking break. Fuck Nader and the Naderfucktards.
we can do it
Jun 2013
#263
I absolutely disagree with you. Nader cost Gore NH and FL. Look at the exit polls and the results..
hrmjustin
Jun 2013
#285
i think gore cost nader the election. makes about as much sense. elections don't 'belong'
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#288
I hope you mean the straw men used to support the contention of this OP.
great white snark
Jun 2013
#309
Wow! Are we so bored we have to fight over this again? It reminds me...
TreasonousBastard
Jun 2013
#303
Yes he did. And because of that his legacy to America is now a gigantic net minus.
mikekohr
Jun 2013
#306
You can't rewrite history, if not for Nader there would NOT have been Supremes intervention
DainBramaged
Jun 2013
#307
Ralph Nader pulled enough votes from Gore to enable Bush to steal the election.
UCmeNdc
Jun 2013
#315
The fix was in. There is NO WAY the Petroleum Mafia was going to allow Al Gore to ...
Raster
Jun 2013
#324
RALPH NADER LIED and CIVIL RIGHTS DIED. Both statements are 100% verifiable and true.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#327