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Ms. Toad

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27. If that is all you got from the other threads, you weren't paying attention.

Fri May 31, 2013, 11:42 PM

May 2013

And, we don't even know that much in each of the cases, and we don't know other relevant information in any of them. Except as noted we don't know in any of the cases posted:

(1) the age of both people involved (in one case we know the girl was 14)
(2) the grade of both people involved
(3) whether they were romantically involved
(4) whether there was force involved (in one case it says there was no physical force - which is not the same as no force), and the other reports linked in this thread don't address it at all.

I don't think high school romances which become sexual should be criminal matters merely because of the age of the participants. But I don't know what the situation is in any of these cases. Force (as long as it is wasn't physical force) is consistent with every report in this thread as of the time I'm posting this comment.

So none of these (as currently reported) are analogous to the Kaitlyn Hunt case. If it turns out they are if/when there is a more complete report, my position is the same. It should not be a criminal matter.

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Hudson Falls teen pleads guilty in statutory rape case [View all] TransitJohn May 2013 OP

But he wasn't in High School. MrSlayer May 2013 #1

no difference between the two cases. loli phabay May 2013 #2

True enough. A 19 yr old doesn't HAVE to rape a 14 yr old.... Honeycombe8 May 2013 #3

exactly. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #10

delete pnwmom Jun 2013 #55

society treats those in high school differently than those who aren't in high school dsc May 2013 #4

Well then how about this one? Perp was in high school. TransitJohn May 2013 #5

Another one for your perusal. TransitJohn May 2013 #6

Yet another TransitJohn May 2013 #8

gee funny how they are all black dsc May 2013 #9

Wonder why their parents didn't refuse a plea-bargain (not offered) then try to use public TransitJohn May 2013 #11

you have no earthly idea what they did or didn't do dsc May 2013 #12

Are you saying they don't investigate reports by white girls? Only black girls? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #20

I wonder if all the girls were white dsc May 2013 #21

Not on your boopy. IMO, your concern should be for the black girl, not the black guy. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #23

the fact is I think nice looking, white, rich boys don't end up in prison for this dsc May 2013 #24

But if he'd flunked a grade, he would be in high school... Captain Stern Jun 2013 #44

good. He should get jail time. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #7

I don't agree. There has got to be a better way to deal with these youth's raging Luminous Animal May 2013 #14

Again, your concern seems to be for the man whose "hormones are raging." Boys will be boys? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #22

That's not what LA said davidpdx May 2013 #32

No. My post was about the girl's raging hormones. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #42

14 year old girls do not have raging hormones. But 19 year old men do. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #52

You have got to be kidding. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53

Nope. Look it up. You've never noticed that? Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #57

this comment is about as stupid is Todd Akin's missive Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #56

You can't be that uninformed about biology, can you? It's a biological fact. Look it up. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #58

So my female students aren't sex crazed like the boys are? Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #59

Don't argue with the messenger. Argue with science. Look it up. It's true. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #60

I did. The biologist I spoke to with the PhD from UC Davis says you're full of crap Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #61

How very liberal. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17

I was a victim of statutory rape so I don't give a damn if you think I'm liberal or not. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #31

I'm sure there will be about fifty DU threads calling for that guy to be freed. Nye Bevan May 2013 #13

If that is all you got from the other threads, you weren't paying attention. Ms. Toad May 2013 #27

force was involved. a 14 year old cannot consent. The 14 year old was raped. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #28

Legal presumptions and reality don't always match. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #34

See #32 above davidpdx May 2013 #33

Bueller? Bueller? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #39

Truthfully, I think this is a double standard BainsBane May 2013 #15

You might want to carefully read the report. Ms. Toad May 2013 #29

The age spread is the same BainsBane May 2013 #30

The age difference is most likely larger davidpdx Jun 2013 #35

We don't know the age spread. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #37

consent is the whole principal of statutory rape BainsBane Jun 2013 #38

And I think in high school settings I think the law is wrong. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #40

I don't think that's a workable solution BainsBane Jun 2013 #41

It is the primary place where teens meet others and form relationships. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #43

None of the cases in this thread Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #48

Don't expect her to walk back her false analogy, nor will anyone else that has made the same one davidpdx Jun 2013 #47

I agree with you, generally Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #49

You do realize unreadierLizard May 2013 #16

Here is what I posted May 27 on this issue etherealtruth May 2013 #26

A 19 year old should not be having sex with a 14 year old. In_The_Wind May 2013 #18

... Iggo May 2013 #19

Where are all the "Free Michael" bracelets? NaturalHigh May 2013 #25

See post #35 davidpdx Jun 2013 #36

"Under 15" is unspecific. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2013 #45

Which is the point I was making above davidpdx Jun 2013 #54

Sick bastard belongs in jail! B Calm Jun 2013 #46

This is why I think Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #50

I still say gollygee Jun 2013 #51