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Luminous Animal

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14. I don't agree. There has got to be a better way to deal with these youth's raging

Wed May 29, 2013, 10:40 PM

May 2013

hormones and the consequences. I am 99.99% sure that the girl (and possibly the parents) do not want this youth to go to jail AND be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life.

A young woman that I know was a 14 year old girl when she started dating a 19 year old young man. Both sets of parents disapproved. The mother of the girl (very close to me), not only adamantly forbade the relationship but both sets of parents stepped up to the plate and communicated with each other and the youths, to make it perfectly clear, that the relationship was unacceptable and illegal as well. My friend an evening/night manager of a bar & restaurant and a single mom of 3 kids (the girl being the youngest) grounded her which resulted in her sneaking out, not only to meet her boyfriend but acting out in general - she started drinking and doing mild drugs.

The mom employed "spies". The girl's older siblings and trusted friends to track her daughter's movements so that when she snuck out, the mom would leave work to go drag the girl home.

It was a horrible horrible year which resulted in the mom losing her job (too many times leaving work to go rescue her daughter) and the girl trying to commit a coma inducing suicide. In the end, the exhausted parents agreed to let the relationship go forward (at the time, 15 and 20 years old).

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Hudson Falls teen pleads guilty in statutory rape case [View all] TransitJohn May 2013 OP

But he wasn't in High School. MrSlayer May 2013 #1

no difference between the two cases. loli phabay May 2013 #2

True enough. A 19 yr old doesn't HAVE to rape a 14 yr old.... Honeycombe8 May 2013 #3

exactly. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #10

delete pnwmom Jun 2013 #55

society treats those in high school differently than those who aren't in high school dsc May 2013 #4

Well then how about this one? Perp was in high school. TransitJohn May 2013 #5

Another one for your perusal. TransitJohn May 2013 #6

Yet another TransitJohn May 2013 #8

gee funny how they are all black dsc May 2013 #9

Wonder why their parents didn't refuse a plea-bargain (not offered) then try to use public TransitJohn May 2013 #11

you have no earthly idea what they did or didn't do dsc May 2013 #12

Are you saying they don't investigate reports by white girls? Only black girls? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #20

I wonder if all the girls were white dsc May 2013 #21

Not on your boopy. IMO, your concern should be for the black girl, not the black guy. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #23

the fact is I think nice looking, white, rich boys don't end up in prison for this dsc May 2013 #24

But if he'd flunked a grade, he would be in high school... Captain Stern Jun 2013 #44

good. He should get jail time. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #7

I don't agree. There has got to be a better way to deal with these youth's raging Luminous Animal May 2013 #14

Again, your concern seems to be for the man whose "hormones are raging." Boys will be boys? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #22

That's not what LA said davidpdx May 2013 #32

No. My post was about the girl's raging hormones. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #42

14 year old girls do not have raging hormones. But 19 year old men do. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #52

You have got to be kidding. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53

Nope. Look it up. You've never noticed that? Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #57

this comment is about as stupid is Todd Akin's missive Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #56

You can't be that uninformed about biology, can you? It's a biological fact. Look it up. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #58

So my female students aren't sex crazed like the boys are? Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #59

Don't argue with the messenger. Argue with science. Look it up. It's true. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #60

I did. The biologist I spoke to with the PhD from UC Davis says you're full of crap Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #61

How very liberal. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17

I was a victim of statutory rape so I don't give a damn if you think I'm liberal or not. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #31

I'm sure there will be about fifty DU threads calling for that guy to be freed. Nye Bevan May 2013 #13

If that is all you got from the other threads, you weren't paying attention. Ms. Toad May 2013 #27

force was involved. a 14 year old cannot consent. The 14 year old was raped. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #28

Legal presumptions and reality don't always match. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #34

See #32 above davidpdx May 2013 #33

Bueller? Bueller? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #39

Truthfully, I think this is a double standard BainsBane May 2013 #15

You might want to carefully read the report. Ms. Toad May 2013 #29

The age spread is the same BainsBane May 2013 #30

The age difference is most likely larger davidpdx Jun 2013 #35

We don't know the age spread. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #37

consent is the whole principal of statutory rape BainsBane Jun 2013 #38

And I think in high school settings I think the law is wrong. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #40

I don't think that's a workable solution BainsBane Jun 2013 #41

It is the primary place where teens meet others and form relationships. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #43

None of the cases in this thread Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #48

Don't expect her to walk back her false analogy, nor will anyone else that has made the same one davidpdx Jun 2013 #47

I agree with you, generally Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #49

You do realize unreadierLizard May 2013 #16

Here is what I posted May 27 on this issue etherealtruth May 2013 #26

A 19 year old should not be having sex with a 14 year old. In_The_Wind May 2013 #18

... Iggo May 2013 #19

Where are all the "Free Michael" bracelets? NaturalHigh May 2013 #25

See post #35 davidpdx Jun 2013 #36

"Under 15" is unspecific. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2013 #45

Which is the point I was making above davidpdx Jun 2013 #54

Sick bastard belongs in jail! B Calm Jun 2013 #46

This is why I think Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #50

I still say gollygee Jun 2013 #51