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In reply to the discussion: Do smoking bans apply to e-cigarettes? [View all]pnwmom
(108,978 posts)57. These researchers are pointing out that there are design flaws in the products
that, among other things, can allow nicotine to leak into the environment, exposing children and pets. This isn't an insignificant risk.
Why is it that the manufacturers are refusing to do the research that all the other manufacturers of similar products (nicotine gum, patches, etc.) were happy to do?
Why should we blindly trust the corporations that are producing these products, many of them in China? (Which doesn't have a great safety record, by the way.)
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They are beneficial for smokers. But not for second-hand smokers, who are also human.
pnwmom
May 2013
#36
Any company which wants to get FDA approval needs to conduct their own research
pnwmom
May 2013
#257
yes and clearly judging addicts to the degree you do, is the very BEST
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2013
#138
I have been on them for over two years. Have vaped at work regularly and on planes, trains, and in
Malikshah
May 2013
#180
Sadly, yes. The anti-smoker warriors want to ban the very idea of smoking
SirRevolutionary
May 2013
#8
yes because they blow out nictotine which poisons the non-drug addicts in the room nt
msongs
May 2013
#10
The lawsuit was four years ago, and the products were already in existence then for years.
pnwmom
May 2013
#266
The insurance company is correct. They are legally classified as tobacco products
pnwmom
May 2013
#29
I can't imagine how they could justify banning them. It was second hand smoke that
virgogal
May 2013
#28
If they were regulated the same as other products, they would be off the market.
pnwmom
May 2013
#60
Yeah...stuff from 09 when the industry was in its infancy...thats what I thought.
beevul
May 2013
#196
No, the onus is not on me because it's already classified, by the manufacturer's choice,
pnwmom
May 2013
#222
True. We were out in front banning regular cigarettes in public and work spaces here
pnwmom
May 2013
#294
It IS up to the FDA to approve them because the FDA regulates anything containing NICOTINE.
pnwmom
May 2013
#309
where there is no fire there is no smoke, so hence you cant smoke something that doesnt smoke.
Tyhanna
May 2013
#305
No, you do. Nicotine is already a regulated drug. That's been the case for decades.
pnwmom
May 2013
#307
Nothing but " hokey biased justification" for selling these products has been offered up so far.
pnwmom
May 2013
#320
It all depends on how the ban is worded. No one has objected to it in my state.
pnwmom
May 2013
#165
LOL! Allow nicotine to "leak into the environment!" OMG! What, like a nuclear reactor leak?
DevonRex
May 2013
#65
For smokers they simply have to be safer than cigarettes. As far as secondhand
DevonRex
May 2013
#73
True. But carpet doesn't have supporters claiming it will help stop smoking. n/t
pnwmom
May 2013
#255
You cannot prove that because no data has been submitted to the FDA showing that
pnwmom
May 2013
#358
yes, because you are the only person in the world whose experience matters
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2013
#173
Well...try this (thought experiment only) and let me know what ya think
The Straight Story
May 2013
#154
I don't want to breathe the Hydrogen, carbonyl sulphide, and hydrogen sulphide from it!!!
yawnmaster
May 2013
#161
There's no research out there that shows these products are helping people quit.
pnwmom
May 2013
#186
What I'm looking for are the usual safety and effectiveness studies that companies
pnwmom
May 2013
#225
I posted what their OWN attorney said in the lawsuit: these devices are inherently dangerous.
pnwmom
May 2013
#265
Yes, any adult can buy nicotine -- but the SELLING of nicotine products is FDA regulated.
pnwmom
May 2013
#318
I haven't said nicotine is "illegal" -- I've said that it is regulated. And that's a fact. n/t
pnwmom
May 2013
#327
You keep saying that. Have you ever heard of google? It took me about 5 seconds.
pnwmom
May 2013
#374
LOL. i do wonder how many people do every other thing that takes one to be healthy
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2013
#185