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baldguy

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91. Were Pit Bulls originally bred to fight? Sure. 200 yrs ago.

Sat May 11, 2013, 10:01 AM

May 2013

Just as German Shepherds were developed to herd sheep, small Terriers were developed to kill mice & rats, and Bull Dogs were developed to kill bulls for sport. But they ALL - WITHOUT EXCEPTION - were developed with the desire to please their human masters and to live in human society. Most people who own German Shepherds don't herd sheep, they have the dog as a family member & companion. Most people who have small Terriers don't let them chase & kill rats, they have the dog as a family member & companion. Most people who have Bull Dogs don't engage in bull-baiting with the dog, they have the dog as a family member & companion.

And most people who have dogs which are descended from the original "pit bulls" don't engage in dog fighting, they have the dog as a family member & companion. What's contrary to all reality is to deny that fact.

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We DID PITT BULLS BEFORE! [View all] KoKo May 2013 OP

Salon did a good piece on pits this week. PeaceNikki May 2013 #1

What a great article! Wait Wut May 2013 #3

I've had 2 and both were terrified of my cats. PeaceNikki May 2013 #5

Yep! Wait Wut May 2013 #11

You inspired me to dig up some old photos of Sam, the bestest doggie ever PeaceNikki May 2013 #16

He was gorgeous! Wait Wut May 2013 #18

Thanks. I miss him something awful. He was my first dog ever. And, to be honest, I was nervous based PeaceNikki May 2013 #20

I wish more people would do the research. Wait Wut May 2013 #27

I had a 93-pound pit bull. How would you want one that size on your lap? n/t RebelOne May 2013 #48

Holy cow! Wait Wut May 2013 #115

Or a beautiful warthog? randome May 2013 #117

^this Marrah_G May 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #69

Thanks...will check it out from Salon... KoKo May 2013 #4

And I thank you for that. PeaceNikki May 2013 #8

I'll tell you why Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #70

prop.o.gan.da. PeaceNikki May 2013 #77

Hysterical misinformation like this CREATES the "dangerous dog" mystique baldguy May 2013 #120

You keep typing that and it doesn't make any more sense with each repetition XemaSab May 2013 #122

"Pit Bulls often attract the worst kind of dog owners." baldguy May 2013 #15

And DU totally confuses those shitty owners with those of us here who rescue them and give them PeaceNikki May 2013 #17

+10000 jazzimov May 2013 #61

Thank you. jazzimov May 2013 #60

I have three dogs. XemaSab May 2013 #62

And I have had 2 pit bull rescues. Both with kids and cats. PeaceNikki May 2013 #64

a newfie person! backwoodsbob May 2013 #86

Dog racism??? LittleBlue May 2013 #111

Pit bulls are too masculine? RobertEarl May 2013 #2

yep - tend to agree in general, but there are still those cases where DrDan May 2013 #6

Indeed. PeaceNikki May 2013 #9

Do you know who Trained or Owned the Pit Bulls you've come in contact with, though? KoKo May 2013 #10

Take Great Danes RobertEarl May 2013 #19

You're as ill-informed about Great Danes as you are about pits. nt Doremus May 2013 #38

What an interesting, albeit incorrect post about great danes AND pit bulls. flvegan May 2013 #51

i think you're wrong. DesertFlower May 2013 #22

if your Chihuahua could eat you it would. facts galileoreloaded May 2013 #7

Very Funny...it would take a lot of work...but I guess "Baby Death from Chihuahua" KoKo May 2013 #29

lol. its true though. they are animals. pure instinct. galileoreloaded May 2013 #33

Nah...unless they are "out on their own" they Love you because they Bond with You KoKo May 2013 #36

i respectfully disagree, but good interchange! nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #37

Then why does my dog love my 2-year old grandson SwissTony May 2013 #71

dogs, like people work on behavioral conditioning galileoreloaded May 2013 #73

Yeah. Right. SwissTony May 2013 #131

True. I have a Chihuahua and she is a mean little critter. RebelOne May 2013 #47

Chihuahua's run in packs Politicalboi May 2013 #154

Why not let the breed die out? Throd May 2013 #12

From the Salon article linked by PeaceNikki: baldguy May 2013 #21

It already is a crime to abuse dogs. Throd May 2013 #25

And the punishment is often equivalent to a slap on the wrist. baldguy May 2013 #34

No disagreement on those points. Throd May 2013 #42

I suspect that's why "pits" are blamed for a disproportionate number of attacks. SwissTony May 2013 #72

"Pit Bull" has become an imaginary breed based on looks & behavior DirkGently May 2013 #13

"Pit Bull's" get Eyeballs to News Sites....it's how it works... KoKo May 2013 #31

You have a link that says that cats don't kill millions of birds? XemaSab May 2013 #54

Some dogs are more territorial than others rrneck May 2013 #14

Of all the dogs I've been bit by... Archae May 2013 #23

I'm old enough to remember being terrified by German Shepherds...because of WWII KoKo May 2013 #39

Couldn't one say the same about semi-automatic assault rifles? n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #24

I'm just going to keep this in my clipboard... PeaceNikki May 2013 #26

Indeed - imagine how dangerous guns could be if they had a mind of their own. n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #28

All modern dogs were bred by humans for specific purposes. Throd May 2013 #30

lol's...got your point. n/t KoKo May 2013 #32

Pits were never bred to hurt people. PeaceNikki May 2013 #35

+1 KoKo May 2013 #43

This is why pit bulls kill people XemaSab May 2013 #50

Dogs kill humans when a *human* neglects and/or mistreats the dog. baldguy May 2013 #66

My two Pit Bulls are sweet as can be deacon2 May 2013 #40

The attacks we see in the news may or may not even involve pit bulls. smokey nj May 2013 #41

Obvious, but... this needs to be said! Quantess May 2013 #44

Agree...but, there's always an errant Socio/Pschopatic one..but, that's in us Humans, also. KoKo May 2013 #45

No, you just said it yourself... Quantess May 2013 #46

I've seen dogs be abused & mistreated for *years* baldguy May 2013 #49

Just like with humans! Quantess May 2013 #65

I think it's a mistake to demonize them and a mistake to not acknowledge that they can be dangerous. Marrah_G May 2013 #52

Who really gives a shit if they die out or not? randome May 2013 #55

What you write combined with your sig line make me laugh out loud. The irony. nt uppityperson May 2013 #57

How am I being ironic? randome May 2013 #58

"Who gives a shit if a dog dies out. Stop looking for heroes. BE one." uppityperson May 2013 #59

Glad I could make you chuckle. randome May 2013 #63

Baloney. Did Rachel Ray try to create a vicious dog? Nine May 2013 #56

And DogsBite.org makes money from creating anti-Pit Bull hype. baldguy May 2013 #67

DogsBite.org makes money? Please explain what you mean by this. Nine May 2013 #74

DogsBite.org is a scam. It's run by one person named Colleen Lynn, and she makes her money baldguy May 2013 #79

What "victim's fund" are you talking about? Nine May 2013 #81

They have been exposed as frauds by dozens of ACTUAL experts. PeaceNikki May 2013 #82

All that link says is that some groups have opposing views. Nine May 2013 #84

You didn't read it. Try again. PeaceNikki May 2013 #88

The money goes in Colleen Lynn's pocket. baldguy May 2013 #83

Again, what the heck are you talking about? (nt) Nine May 2013 #85

What can you not understand? DogsBite is a scam. baldguy May 2013 #92

That's not true. Nine May 2013 #93

DogsBite.org is not truthful. It promotes genocide & sensationalizes vary rare events baldguy May 2013 #96

So are you finally backing off your accusation that they steal money from victims? Nine May 2013 #98

There is no "they" at DogsBite. SHE dosn't steal money directly from victims - I never said she did. baldguy May 2013 #103

Really? Genocide? Anyone trying to eliminate the 'race' of dogs? randome May 2013 #106

Like with most everything else, Americans are too fucking stupid and emotional to do the right thing whatchamacallit May 2013 #68

Great info! Thanks! randome May 2013 #75

The blog you lifted that from (unattributed, I'll add) is out of date and not telling whole picture. PeaceNikki May 2013 #76

The PR governor vetoed a bill to overturn the ban in 2010. randome May 2013 #87

Show me data that BSL works. PeaceNikki May 2013 #89

Well, I suppose it's axiomatic that banning breeds considered dangerous... randome May 2013 #94

I have an aversion to legislation based on bullshit propaganda. A breed-neutral approach is the way PeaceNikki May 2013 #97

No, I think you have much more invested in this than bureaucratic deportment. randome May 2013 #101

I told you why I care. I posted the ASPCA analysis on BSL. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. PeaceNikki May 2013 #102

Speed limit laws largely don't work, either. randome May 2013 #104

You missed a WHOLE lot of the ASPCA analysis. PeaceNikki May 2013 #105

I get your point of view. Really. randome May 2013 #107

So, you disagree with the ASPCA baldguy May 2013 #116

What I disagreed with was the ludicrous notion that it takes fewer resources... randome May 2013 #119

Enforcing laws that work takes fewer resources than trying to enforce laws that don't work. baldguy May 2013 #121

Are you saying that banning doesn't work? randome May 2013 #124

So, your premise is... 99Forever May 2013 #78

Were Pit Bulls originally bred to fight? Sure. 200 yrs ago. baldguy May 2013 #91

What are you claiming - that all these breeds can just "turn off" their instincts? Nine May 2013 #100

That's a lot of words, just to say... 99Forever May 2013 #108

You're trying to claim that breed is everything for a dog. baldguy May 2013 #109

Don't tell me what I'm "claiming"... 99Forever May 2013 #113

You're arguing with your own argument. baldguy May 2013 #118

You love those strawmen, doncha? 99Forever May 2013 #123

You do realize the entire case you're supporting against Pit Bulls is a straw man argument, right? baldguy May 2013 #129

Education is a good thing. 99Forever May 2013 #125

And what do you think that proves? baldguy May 2013 #130

What it "proves" is that... 99Forever May 2013 #133

And if the genes just don't exist in an animals genome? What then? baldguy May 2013 #136

So close. Nine May 2013 #128

Who is Alexandra Semyonova? baldguy May 2013 #134

Semyonova is 100% AGAINST dominance theory. Nine May 2013 #138

You didn't bother to read your own links, did you? baldguy May 2013 #139

Do you have any arguments other than personal attacks on those you disagree with? Nine May 2013 #140

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. PeaceNikki May 2013 #144

Think about this. Nine May 2013 #146

you're awesome declanthope Aug 2016 #160

Confusion declanthope Aug 2016 #159

There's a reason why they're named pit bulls. ozone_man May 2013 #112

There is a reason for this bumper sticker I saw on the back of a pickup truck, too: Pit Bull Inside. randome May 2013 #135

Here is the thing iwillalwayswonderwhy May 2013 #80

Do you do that upon seeing anyone with any large breed? baldguy May 2013 #90

This is what pit bull attacks look like. Nine May 2013 #95

Can you find photos of the people injured/killed recently by PeaceNikki May 2013 #99

try again Nine May 2013 #127

An elderly neighbor always carried a golf club while walking his elderly Lab FarCenter May 2013 #110

I would think it depends on how hard they hit. randome May 2013 #114

English sheep dogs may die as a breed because they are no longer popular. snagglepuss May 2013 #126

i think that there should be some screening before inexperienced dog owners La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #132

It is real simple. Take away the pit bull and it is replaced Rex May 2013 #137

What I can't stand are the pit bulls breastfeeding at Olive Garden. kwassa May 2013 #141

You pit bull breastfeeding Olive Garden hater! cynatnite May 2013 #143

Yeah, yeah, I know ... kwassa May 2013 #147

I knew a dog trainer gejohnston May 2013 #145

Going to be hated for this but no pit bulls - and yes, it does seem to be a problem with the BREED, MillennialDem May 2013 #148

Projected perception based on the experience with one. flvegan May 2013 #149

Well, if you're worried about voting to ban your little snowflake, don't worry about it MillennialDem May 2013 #150

Worried, me? Never. flvegan May 2013 #151

Don't put words in my mouth or mock me clown. MillennialDem May 2013 #152

Clown? Interesting. flvegan May 2013 #155

Nowhere does your post specify the forum as a whole rather than me. And aggressive? Project much? MillennialDem May 2013 #156

Thank you. flvegan May 2013 #157

I lived in a house with Rotties Politicalboi May 2013 #153

Why are Pitt Bulls Blamed for EVERYTHING dogs do? KoKo May 2013 #158