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ProSense

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33. There is

Tue May 7, 2013, 01:19 PM

May 2013

"a party in disarray over a fundamental issue is never a good thing"

...no "disarray." Clearly, Democrats are standing united against chained CPI, and the President continues to insist that it is an attempt to get Republicans to compromise. From the OP

In his most recent budget proposal, Obama included a measure to reduce the cost-of-living adjustment related to senior and veterans benefits as a compromise offer to Republicans

The proposal is going no where because Republicans don't want to own it.

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Red-State Democrats Buck Obama On Social Security Cuts - HuffPo [View all] WillyT May 2013 OP

oh look all the closet republicans are not cooperating with each other lol nt msongs May 2013 #1

mark begich=scum roguevalley May 2013 #11

As a NC-ian, I am VERY proud of Hagan for this. appal_jack May 2013 #88

The headline should simply read 'Democrats' not Red State Democrats as Oregon is not Bluenorthwest May 2013 #2

What he ^ said. bvar22 May 2013 #3

I Don't Make The Headlines... I Just Report 'Em... WillyT May 2013 #6

HuffPo is notorious for misleading headlines n/t markpkessinger May 2013 #56

sometimes DonCoquixote May 2013 #9

I Hear Ya... But I Think They Were Pointing Out This... WillyT May 2013 #5

it did say the ones you mention were "running in bluer states" 0rganism May 2013 #8

"Which Democratic Senators are helping the President push his cuts?" AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #14

I live in North Carolina, John2 May 2013 #52

Yes,we are a PURPLE state at the very least! NCarolinawoman May 2013 #77

That's what I was thinking. AllyCat May 2013 #84

I could see this coming, and I don't even play chess Doctor_J May 2013 #4

Real Dems did ...not the worshipper zombies. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #18

Obama's approval with Dems is at about 85%. JoePhilly May 2013 #25

Please tell me you're not serious. Savannahmann May 2013 #61

Opposing Obama is the winning position in red states loyalsister May 2013 #63

red states like OR and HI? Doctor_J May 2013 #68

Red states like loyalsister May 2013 #71

Good. He needs to be bucked on this. (n/t) SMC22307 May 2013 #7

So senate dems are getting to run as defenders of SS ... JoePhilly May 2013 #10

The "down side" comes if you're a senior Le Taz Hot May 2013 #15

The GOP has been attacking SS for about 40 years ... pretty much non-stop. JoePhilly May 2013 #16

Not one acknowledgment of Le Taz Hot May 2013 #19

It's always bad when downticket candidates are forced to repudiate their President. geek tragedy May 2013 #22

If these Dems get re-elected does that really matter? JoePhilly May 2013 #23

IF. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #24

Ahhh ... so you are predicting loses for these folks ... because JoePhilly May 2013 #26

a party in disarray over a fundamental issue is never a good thing geek tragedy May 2013 #28

There is ProSense May 2013 #33

Democrats are not united against chained CPI. It's in the damn White House budget. geek tragedy May 2013 #34

The President ProSense May 2013 #36

Add Nancy Pelosi to the list. geek tragedy May 2013 #39

Is she in the Senate? ProSense May 2013 #42

Dick Durbinand Mark Warner are, and they're a-o-k with chained CPI geek tragedy May 2013 #45

Senate Unanimously Votes Against Cuts to Social Security: Media Don’t Notice ProSense May 2013 #47

So, no Republican favors chained CPI either? geek tragedy May 2013 #48

So ProSense May 2013 #50

The point is that senate vote is meaningless as to predicting future votes. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #51

No, the point is that Senate Democrats are opposed to it (see the OP). n/t ProSense May 2013 #53

But, if it proves that Senate Democrats are opposed, it also geek tragedy May 2013 #58

OK, that makes no sense. n/t ProSense May 2013 #60

Have you noticed ... JoePhilly May 2013 #44

How are the Dems in "disarray"? JoePhilly May 2013 #37

The #1 House Democrat is onboard with chained CPI geek tragedy May 2013 #40

Why wouldn't Obama come to North Carolina? John2 May 2013 #62

Lol! Funny, that really is funny. Here's the reality, no Democrat should have to run AGAINST sabrina 1 May 2013 #29

Again, for you this is all about Obama. JoePhilly May 2013 #38

Wrong, but that's a revealing projection on your part. For YOU it appears to be all about Obama. sabrina 1 May 2013 #46

Read my original response to this OP. JoePhilly May 2013 #55

Read your own posts. You 'accused' me of 'not liking Obama' and attempted to make that the sabrina 1 May 2013 #59

Wrong again. JoePhilly May 2013 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Occulus May 2013 #72

maybe the president should come out as anti-choice too Doctor_J May 2013 #69

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #78

k&r xtraxritical May 2013 #12

Hmmm.. i thought they would favor cutting government programs.guess not if the President is for it? kelliekat44 May 2013 #13

If they did then they would be admitting that they are just like the POTUS. L0oniX May 2013 #17

Ya know ...the fact is that if Obama had offered CPI before the election he would have lost... L0oniX May 2013 #20

And now, he says he's willing to consider it ... and that helps red state Dems ... JoePhilly May 2013 #27

depresses turnout RedstDem May 2013 #30

How does it depress turn out? JoePhilly May 2013 #32

depresses turnout amongst dems RedstDem May 2013 #41

Keep saying it and maybe someone, somewhere will buy it. sabrina 1 May 2013 #31

Reublicans have already said that Obama's proposal does not go far enough. JoePhilly May 2013 #35

I am a Democrat who should not have to be 'perpetually upset' by the policies being proposed sabrina 1 May 2013 #43

LOL ... now THAT is funny. JoePhilly May 2013 #49

Can you explain why Democrats anywhere need a reason to protect SS?? Are you implying that sabrina 1 May 2013 #54

When did I say they NEEDED a reason? You invented that. JoePhilly May 2013 #57

I agree with you, John2 May 2013 #65

he should adopt ALL Far right wing positions Doctor_J May 2013 #70

Genius move, Obama. Going to the right of the Blue Dogs on Social Security. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #21

A lot of people seem to confuse a willingness to do something with a desire to do something Proud Liberal Dem May 2013 #66

That maybe so, John2 May 2013 #74

Social Security does need to be fixed but chained CPI does nothing RunInCircles May 2013 #67

SS is bringing in enough even in the worst of scenarios, which is now, to last without anyone doing sabrina 1 May 2013 #75

I don't think you are correct RunInCircles May 2013 #81

You mean ''The Grand Buttf$#K!'' DeSwiss May 2013 #73

Not at all surprised kaiserhog May 2013 #76

President Obama is wrong on this issue and needs to make a U-turn. Faryn Balyncd May 2013 #79

Especially Since the proposal does nothing to fix social security RunInCircles May 2013 #82

STOP Obama blkmusclmachine May 2013 #80

It's almost as if the guy who isn't running Recursion May 2013 #83

yes, we're all fucking dumbshits, including Bernie Sanders and Peter Defazio frylock May 2013 #86

do you think Bernie and Peter are always right? Skittles May 2013 #89

i trust Bernie and Peter on this.. frylock May 2013 #90

I don't trust any politicians Skittles May 2013 #91

It's almost as if.... davidthegnome May 2013 #87

Ed Markey Runs Against Obama’s Proposed Social Security Cut ProSense May 2013 #85