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In reply to the discussion: Do sexual assault victims have an obligation to resist/protest? [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)14. ture that. no ... no's. no struggle. total acceptance. nt
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Do sexual assault victims have an obligation to resist/protest? [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
OP
Yes. Sorry. I'm a little flush with emotion -- in case you hadn't guessed. n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#13
If a woman gives no indication of objection and/or goes along with the man, it's not assault.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#128
How is it "abuse of power" when the man in question doesn't threaten anybody?
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#140
From the guy that brought you complaints of false equivalency come false dichotomy & strawmen
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#176
agreed. I wonder why there isn't more optics on men than women. what the hell is wrong with so many
roguevalley
Feb 2012
#184
This forum is very progressive when it comes to sexual orientation rights, and racial issues..
left coaster
Feb 2012
#20
i am right there with you. we had an hour conversation with 16, 14 yr old sons, hubby
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#25
this would be the same bogus bullshit like duers claiming ALL sex is an assault? nt
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#103
Oh, so randomly throwing in the tired, worn-out "patriarchy", "misogyny" etc. is okay
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#115
I don't think pointing out a false equivalency is disallowing anyone from using "misandry" in a sent
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#119
ya, right... like throwing out duers saying all sex is assault. no man can go around saying that
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#134
The fact is, you made something completely different out of what was originally said...
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#102
More like you deliberately left out abuses of power to coerce people who don't consent
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#105
She unbuttoned her shirt for him, when he was in no way forcing/threatening her
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#113
The OP specifically said no threatening was involved, so your sarcasm is completely misplaced.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#104
It's generally accepted that a power differential can be seen as coercion, but just because a power
Brickbat
Feb 2012
#6
read up on how predators "groom" their victims, then watch the movie fishtank
firehorse
Feb 2012
#10
sexually inexperienced 17 yr old at a party of adults. late 20s, 30s. a couple beers and drunk
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#11
Maybe I'm too modern, too young, too naive and all sorts of wild ideas have been put into my head
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#17
just putting it out there. especially our very young girls, they are not equipped thru experience,
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#21
Prolly for the best. last time a woman talked truth, she was tarred and feathered.
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#74
Mere sympathy seems too pale. I hope your post is only an expression of past thougths
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#35
Sometime I like to be the demure sex kitten, sometimes he likes "ambush sex"
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#48
A victim has the RIGHT to SURVIVE! If that victim needs to lay still and let the attacker do what
Justice wanted
Feb 2012
#49
Instincts are strong. They are a gut reactions. If I had known my attacker I might have fought
Justice wanted
Feb 2012
#59
Exactly-we are here and that's all that counts. Fists can be just as scary and dangerous guns and
Justice wanted
Feb 2012
#73
Thank you for your words. I have been on the path to healing for 15 years. I am lucky to have a
Justice wanted
Feb 2012
#196
No is enough but this thread brought up something interesting and it needs repeating
Broderick
Feb 2012
#51
If it is incest, statuatory rape or too out of it to consent, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#57
Social pressure, power dynamics, are just those things boys should be taught to run from,
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#72
Oh, and was threatened with violence, if I didnt allow a dog to hump me. I chose fighting.
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#82
As I said earlier, Joselyn Elders was just that person to begin that transition.
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#89
Since you used my exact words from another thread to make this OP, let me clarify...
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#81
Yknow, I would be for a form that required a signature by the women, if it is a power dynamic situat
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#84
Whenever I get intimate with a woman, her actions indicate clearly whether or not she wants it.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#91
"yes, you may have sex with me".. you may have sex with me? really? lol. geez. how about, ya..
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#93
Actually, that was an exaggeration of what obamanut was saying, so you're making fun of her now.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#97
wrong again. hubby and i all the time are "yessing" each other back and forth. never
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#99
"there ARE some people on DU". ONE. show me ONE person. ONE link. and you prove your point
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#87
ONE... you are making a damn stupid claim as SOME on du. ONE. or it didnt happen
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#94
now you edit your post to run run run, shift, divert. ONE person that has claimed ALL sex
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#96
I often edit posts for further clarification. It's not a crime. Take a chill pill.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#98
ONE of my post that comes even kinda close to saying ALL sex is an assault. ONE
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#101
lmFao. so every time i have had sex or will have sex, i think i am being raped. and you know this
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#111
Again, not what I said. This is what I meant when I was talking about putting words in mens' mouths.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#118
"EVERY form of sex is a kind of "assault""... where am i putting words in "mens mouth"
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#121
the "feminist" (now) are too clever to say it, the poster just know that is really what they are
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#138
Do you have trouble understanding women in general or just assault victims and sneaky feminists?
EFerrari
Feb 2012
#127
No need to steep to vile character assassinations. Give me an argument and I'll discuss.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#130
No, you haven't. I have yet to see one argument from you. If name-calling is all you got..
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#143
so none of the FEMINIST (now) have said, but you KNOW what they are really saying..... fuck. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#137
And apparently I'm one of those sex-hating all-sex-is-assault subliminal message feminists.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#139
worse... post 141. does he do this with all women, and what does that do for them in having a say
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#146
"speak in code language"" imply and suggest""read between the lines" if this is how you decipher if
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#141
Are you denying there are misandrist extremist feminists who do nothing but bash men?
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#161
why would i trust your ability to "decode" with any woman when you clearly show your inability on
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#153
A woman who thinks feminism is about bashing men every opportunity they get.
DutchLiberal
Feb 2012
#162
Dude, you are the first alert I have sent. You seem to have a huge chip on your patriarchal shoulder
WingDinger
Feb 2012
#163
First, why are you having sex with a girl and second, your mind reading will not
EFerrari
Feb 2012
#177
If a man walks around with the impression that women want to have sex with him, by default,
EFerrari
Feb 2012
#124
Any of the other 42 as well. Despite oppression such as a lack of suffrage
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#144